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#39616 02/05/2005 12:10 AM | Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 687 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 687 | Maybe it's just a coincidence, but my 292 has not started this winter on days when the temps are in the 30s or 40s (or colder). Today was mild and the engine crank and ran like a top. A little hesitation from all the gas I'd dumped in the carb over the last few days trying to get it going, but once it smoothed out it ran like a sewing machine. Same thing happened about 6 weeks ago (which was the last time I was able to get the engine running).
Engine turns as normal; turns really strong as if it will crank. But nothing. Most everything about my engine/drivetrain has less than 3k miles on it. Literally. The only thing that's not new on my engine is the distributor shaft. Everything at the top of the distributor (coil, cap, module, wires) is new. I have a brand new distributor but since the engine starts and runs well I don't see a need for it.
The carb is an Edelbrock 500 cfm 4 barrel and the intake is Offy, water heated. The engine wiring harness is new, so is the starter and battery terminals and ground wires. The choke is electric and works well. What could be wrong here?
-ftyler | | |
#39617 02/05/2005 12:58 AM | Joined: Aug 2002 Posts: 117 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: Aug 2002 Posts: 117 | my dad(R.I.P.) had a 41 chevy years ago...let it sit for about a week in the -20 below weather,,,he got in,,whir,whir,vrroooooooomm!!,,she popped off!!..i have a 53 chev that does the same thing...those old Chevy's were built tough....  | | |
#39618 02/05/2005 1:11 AM | Joined: Oct 2001 Posts: 3,458 Extreme Gabster | | Extreme Gabster Joined: Oct 2001 Posts: 3,458 | Did you make sure there is no resistance wire to the distributor and that it is getting the full 12 volts?
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#39619 02/05/2005 2:16 AM | Joined: Nov 2000 Posts: 582 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: Nov 2000 Posts: 582 | Possibly gas draining back from the carb? | | |
#39620 02/05/2005 4:13 AM | Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 394 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 394 | have you had a chance to check your choke plate, also the carb to manfold gasket to make sure it is snug the back of my carb came loose and had a heck of a time to make it run cold | | |
#39621 02/05/2005 4:51 AM | Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 687 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 687 | Originally posted by 4ontheFloor: Did you make sure there is no resistance wire to the distributor and that it is getting the full 12 volts? I haven't but I will. That would explain the "cold" temperature starting problem (say if I were getting only 9-10 volts). Originally posted by 49 geezer: Possibly gas draining back from the carb Would that not cause problems in all weather conditions? :confused: Originally posted by DAKOTA: have you had a chance to check your choke plate, also the carb to manfold gasket to make sure it is snug the back of my carb came loose and had a heck of a time to make it run cold I'm sure the choke plate is fine. I have not checked the carb to manifold gasket but that's simple enough to do. It's quite possible that the nuts holding the carb down have worked loose some and is causing some tiny air opening making cold weather start difficult. Thanks for the pointers guys! -ftyler | | |
#39622 02/05/2005 6:25 AM | Joined: Mar 2004 Posts: 734 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: Mar 2004 Posts: 734 | Check voltage at the starter while someone's inside turnin' the key. Then check to see if there's full voltage at dizzy, etc. Recently, with my hard starting problems on my '65, I checked the wiring going to starter and found the purple ignition wire kinked with a couple bare spots down by the "S" terminal. Repaired that then checked out the firewall plug connector where the ignition wire and temp. wire, etc. come out. That plug was fairly corroded. After cleaning the plug connector, repairing the ignition wire, installing 2 gauge battery cables, cleaning all connections and applying dielectric grease, my no starts are cured. If that firewall plug connector still exists on yours, take a good look at it. I've a feeling I had decreased voltage because of that corrosion. I'd bet if I only cleaned that plug and done nothing else, it would've been good. If you still can't figure it out, maybe it's just a fair weather truck and you should move to San Diego. -David | | |
#39623 02/05/2005 9:59 AM | Joined: Mar 2004 Posts: 734 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: Mar 2004 Posts: 734 | Man o man! Lemme tell you how bad I jinxed myself with that last post! Went out to drive home a few hours after I posted the above, she won't start! Only cranks. Screwdriver on the starter... starts up. What the f*ck!! :mad: So, forget everything I said. Well don't forget it. You should check your voltage. Me, I'm now back where I started with possible intermittant ignition module or pickup coil as suggested here in previous posts. Good luck with your troubles Fred. Hope it's easier to figure out than mine. -David | | |
#39624 02/05/2005 10:00 PM | Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 687 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 687 | mugsy,
I think my problem has already been resolved (by 4onthefloor). In fact it almost has to be the problem. I changed the engine harness last fall (before the cool weather) and had never had this problem the winter before. Well on the new harness the wires that attach to the distributor are of a smaller diameter than the old ones. The wire on the harness is of a much thinner gauge than the HEI hot wire coming off the distributor. I now only have to figure out the best way to get a good permanent connection there.
-ftyler | | |
#39625 02/07/2005 2:52 AM | Joined: Feb 2002 Posts: 2,890 Socket Breaker | | Socket Breaker Joined: Feb 2002 Posts: 2,890 | good luck ftyler.
my '65 with sbc v-8 has been dying in the cold at idle after it has run a little while - but maybe not up to full operatin' temp. That one is confuzzlin' me.
-W | | |
#39626 02/07/2005 5:28 AM | Joined: Aug 2004 Posts: 196 Wrench Fetcher | | Wrench Fetcher Joined: Aug 2004 Posts: 196 | could be the gas your running iv had starting problems with certain gas and the humidty it wouldnt fire switch brands fired right up some gas will atract water also and coat the plugs | | |
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