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Jul 21st, 2025 | | | | Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 547 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 547 | I'm getting ready to install my recently acquired 3 speed w/ OD. I currently have the stuppy short 3 speed HD transmission. I tried to measure it from the bellhousing to the end of the transmission case and got about 12". Can some on tell me how long their 3 speed regular transmission is, because I believe it is the same length as the 3 speed with OD. Or just tell me how long your driveshaft is infront of the carrier bearing. Thanks alot for the help bolters.
Last edited by ApacheFiend; 11/22/2007 9:03 PM.
58' 3200 235 3-speed/OD
| | | | | Joined: May 2006 Posts: 8,351 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: May 2006 Posts: 8,351 | I come up with 22" from mounting flange to end of tailshaft housing.
Bill Burmeister
| | | | | Joined: Jul 2003 Posts: 252 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: Jul 2003 Posts: 252 | When I did the swap into my '61 Apache, I removed the original 3 speed(Muncie) and replaced with the OD. Exact same length, bolts up same way, same spline count on input and output. No driveshaft mods necessary. Plug 'n play as they say:) If you are using a later Saginaw type unit, I believe the spline count on the output is different, you'll need a different yoke. | | | | | Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 547 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 547 | Yachtcare, I currently have the Heavy Duty 3 speed. It's short and stumpy so I need to cut down my drive shaft to fit the new OverDrive tranny. It does look like I will need a new yoke for the new tranny, but I have a few lying around and might not be a problem. LONGBOX55, could you measure the front half of your drive shaft, from tranny to carrier bearing, and tell me what you come up with? That would be a HUGE help! Thanks for the info so far fella's.
58' 3200 235 3-speed/OD
| | | | | Joined: May 2006 Posts: 8,351 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: May 2006 Posts: 8,351 | Ohh, no can do, buddy. Mine doesn't have a carrier bearing, I've got a 1 peice driveshaft. Mine had the std 3 speed in it originally.
Bill Burmeister
| | | | | Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 547 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 547 | Well I appreciate it. I guess I can go to a single piece drive shaft, I was just trying to reduce the amount of down time on my truck. I appreciate all the help fella's!!
58' 3200 235 3-speed/OD
| | | | | Joined: Oct 2007 Posts: 52 Wrench Fetcher | | Wrench Fetcher Joined: Oct 2007 Posts: 52 | there is two tail housings for that trans..one is a short guy the other is about 6 inches longer...maybe you can swap the tail housing for a shorty?
Last edited by ambear; 11/23/2007 5:52 AM.
| | | | | Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 2,066 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 2,066 | You probably won't be able to use a one piece driveshaft. If your 3200 has a 8' bed it probably needs the 2 piece driveshaft. The 55-57 3200's had a 7' bed and had a one piece shaft with the standard 3 speed.
The last time I had a custom driveshaft made up the driveshaft shop said to take the dimensions as follows: Insert the front splined yoke as far as it will go into the trans - pull it back out 1 1/2 inches - measure from the C/L of the front U-joint to the C/L of the rear U-joint (in your case the rear U joint of the front shaft). Give them that dimension and they will make up a shaft.
The standard 3 speed was available with a long or short tailhousing depending on the year. There is no such thing as a "short" tailhousing Overdrive.
The Warner HD trans is a completely different animal and nothing from the standard 3 sp or OD transmission will interchange with it.
Fred
Last edited by rfs56trk; 11/24/2007 4:43 AM.
1956 3100 Pickup/Red/350/3sp OD/PS/Disc Brakes
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