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on the Internet for over 30 years! and not clogged down with Ads! Again, thanks! | | | | Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 39 Wrench Fetcher | | Wrench Fetcher Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 39 | howdy, I have a '48 chevy 1/2 ton- with a 235/3 speed syncro trans/and 2.73 rear axle(chevy blazer-6 bolt) I just got back from a 500 trip and only got 16 mpg...the points seem right, the timing seems right ...the exhaust is black with a "rich" smell when idling... I was hoping to get 20 mpg or better...what do you thinK????
thanks Jimmy | | | | | Joined: Sep 2003 Posts: 2,384 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: Sep 2003 Posts: 2,384 | i would guess your rear gear is too high, putting the engine to low in the powerband. I got 16-17 consistently w/230-3psd/3.73, best was 18.5, but that was all under 60mph. Truck was all stock except HEI. brian | | | | | Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 39 Wrench Fetcher | | Wrench Fetcher Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 39 | so... if I go faster I would get better milage? the truck will run 70- just as soon as I get the tires balanced again...it's a long story...I averaged 55-60 in the rain on the previous trip | | | | | Joined: Oct 2005 Posts: 738 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: Oct 2005 Posts: 738 | My 235 w/ granny 4spd and low rear axle ratio gets about 16 when i am going 60. if i keep it down in the fifties then it is better. I am going to put in a t-5 and a new rear end ratio to get me into the 20's hopefully.
"Never tell people how to do things. Tell them what to do and they will surprise you with their ingenuity." - George S. Patton My Machine | | | | | Joined: Feb 2002 Posts: 12,029 Cruising in the Passing Lane | | Cruising in the Passing Lane Joined: Feb 2002 Posts: 12,029 | faster doesn't make better mileage, but running at the 'optimum' RPM and loading does make a diff, w/ the 2.73's at 50-60 [about stock tire height of 30"], you'll only be turnin 1500-1800RPM - don't know where the best mileage will be, but if you're not on dead flat road, it'll be luging on every slight rise - and only 70? should be able to do 85 and be turnin about 2600RPM
runnin too rich for starters w/ the black pipes [check the plugs] - carb adjustment might help, and make sure the choke isn't stickin part on, or rejetting might be needed - hotter plugs too
Bill | | | | | Joined: Mar 2002 Posts: 990 Member | | Member Joined: Mar 2002 Posts: 990 | I kept my 292 around 23-2500 rpm on the highway which was like 53-56 mph on 59 1 ton with sm420 and 4.10 gears and it got 17 mpg on a 600 mile trip. I had expected worse. | | | | | Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 39 Wrench Fetcher | | Wrench Fetcher Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 39 | what kind of adjustments can you make on a one barrel carb? there is the screw on the lower outside that can be adjusted but what else can be done? and will a rebuild kit be the way to go? thanks | | | | | Joined: Jan 2000 Posts: 125 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Jan 2000 Posts: 125 | Make sure the vacuum port between the carb base and manifold spacer is not blocked by a gasket or spacer installed wrong. This will richen up your carb to the tune of about 5 MPH by keeping the high power jet open all the time. Don't ask how I know this.
Grant 1950 Chevy 3100 1952 GMC 150 (In Pieces) 1968 Chevy K20 1966 Shovelhead 1978 BMW 100S
| | | | | Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 345 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 345 | Powerband, I've noticed the same problem. I'm usually driving short trips, but if this truck were my daily driver, I'd be riding the bus due to gas costs. I have a 235 with a 4 speed and single barrel carb. It doesn't seem overly rich. I'd be interested in learning how to correct this as well. | | | | | Joined: Jun 2004 Posts: 8,597 Riding in the Passing Lane | | Riding in the Passing Lane Joined: Jun 2004 Posts: 8,597 | Clean out the carb & put a kit in it. It.s a real simple carb. Make shure the power piston is working. It should go up & down & kick the ball off it,s seat. Make shure no gas is in the float & set the float level. Like Grant posted make shure vacuum is geting to the port to the power valve. Check the timing & make shure the vacuum advance works. They say money can't buy happiness. It can buy old Chevy trucks though. Same thing. 1972 Chevy c10 Cheyenne SuperIn the Gallery Forum | | | | | Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 2,402 Former Workshop Owner | | Former Workshop Owner Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 2,402 | I didn't think 16 mpg sounded to bad for a '48. It's not fuel injected, has a standard ignition, and is probably not very aerodynamic. Not to mention, that it is a pretty heavy vehicle.
It's a fact that burning a little rich could definitely affect the mileage, but I still think that 16 isn't bad.
I would never dream of 20 mpg or better, am I way off on this one?
~ J Lucas 2006 GMC Envoy 4.2 I6 2023 Ram 2500/Cumins 6.7 I6 2010 Jeep Grand Cherokee (Wife’s) 2002 Silverado 2500 Gas 6.0 1941 Chevy 1/2-Ton 1942 Chevy 1.5-Ton SWBIn the Gallery My Flicker Photos! | | | | | Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 192 Member | | Member Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 192 | has anyone tried platnim plugs or bosch quatros? made a difference in my newer truck,,,more go and better fuel milage..do they sellthem...i don't know?....look into it tommorrow | | | | | Joined: Jun 2005 Posts: 887 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: Jun 2005 Posts: 887 | There's several other threads on this topic, from which I've gathered that you can average about 20-25 with a tuned truck having dual carbs, headers, t-5, appropriately geared rear differential, electronic ignition and PCV valve.
The theory is with the dual carbs you are getting the fuel to the cylinders more efficiently (less waste), that combined with headers, electronic ignition and PCV valve you are maximizing the engine's efficiency. The tranny with overdrive and rear differential with higher gearing (3.73:1, 3:42:1, 3.06:1... in stead of stock 4.11:1) you are able to get operating speeds without having to rev the engine real high and burn more gas. In otherwords, maximizing the efficiency of putting the engine's power into the tires.
Tuning and engine performance are only gonna get you so far in terms of gas savings if you have to keep the engine in the 3k range to maintain 55-75 mph or do lots of stop and start driving.
'51 Chevy 1/2 ton w/'62 261, HEI, offy, fentons, dual carter/webbers, t-5 & 12 bolt posi
| | | | | Joined: Jan 2000 Posts: 2,074 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Jan 2000 Posts: 2,074 | I have a serious rodder buddy that swears a 4 barrel gets him better mileage than the old style one barrel carb(s). Insists that crusing down the highway, the four barrel is running on two relativly small primaries vs one large throttle plate. His theory makes since to me and should hold true with the Holley-Weber type progressive carb.
Many other factors though as mentioned above.
I belive my truck runs much better, not as rich and plugs not as sooty after going with the HEI. | | | | | Joined: Nov 2005 Posts: 266 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: Nov 2005 Posts: 266 | My pipe is black and my plugs are sooty. Combined with the fact that I average about 12 mpg with a Rochester 1bbl on a 250/3-spd/3.73:1, gas is eating up my checking account. I know that the Roch isn't the greatest carb around, but is there a way to tune it out to get better gas mileage. I do a bunch of stop-and-go driving combined with long stints at 55-75 mph on the highway. Any help is much appreciated.
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-------------------- '66 C-10 stepside | | | | | Joined: Mar 2002 Posts: 9,115 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Mar 2002 Posts: 9,115 | One of the really interesting things is that the float level can affect how rich the mixture is. I always thought that if it doesn't flood or starve, the float level doesn't affect much, but that view is wrong. | | | | | Joined: Jan 2006 Posts: 67 Wrench Fetcher | | Wrench Fetcher Joined: Jan 2006 Posts: 67 | well, i was thinking of putting an overdrive and a taller gearbehind my 250/3speed, hoping i would get better milage. should i start worrying abt the carb on it before i do all that stuff?
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| | | | | Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 926 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 926 | andre; I run Bosch platinums in ALL my stuff. I've found that,on average,they've given me about 2 more miles per gallon over AC plugs,and the damned things seem to last forever. Well worth their cost! This is just MY observation-I'm sure someone will have proof to the contrary... Speed | | | | | Joined: Aug 2004 Posts: 399 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: Aug 2004 Posts: 399 | Originally posted by andre 58 jimmy: has anyone tried platnim plugs or bosch quatros? made a difference in my newer truck,,,more go and better fuel milage..do they sellthem...i don't know?....look into it tommorrow Check this out: http://www.stovebolt.com/bboard/cgi-bin//ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=22;t=004552#000006 | | |
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