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I have a 58 chev apache, with the old style cannister filter. Does anyone know of a conversion kit or article that I can refer to so that I can use a more modern spin on type filter? Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Welcome to the Stovebolt Page, Mark

What engine are you running and how many miles a year are you going to put on your 58?

If you answer 235 6 cylinder and under 5,000 miles per year, I would ask why change to a spin on?

Lots of guys use a canister filter....or none at all. Just change your oil more often.

I just took mine off. I do less than 3000 miles a year and change the oil every 1000. Rumour has it they don't filter all that much and they are a pain to maintain.

If this is a v8 yes there is a conversion kit for it. If it is a 235 6 cyl. it uses a bypass filter & a spin on wouldn,t work properly.

I'm going to bite the bullet and get a Moroso 710-23760 oil filter adapter from Jeg's online. It's more than I wanted to pay but I've looked at all the places in town and they don't have one. The Moroso has an extra opening that can be used for oil pressure or temperature.

I'll have to figure out a way to mount it on the intake manifold.

You didn't state if you were running a bypass or full flow system. If you are going the full flow route be sure to get the spin-adapter for the ford/chrysler type filter. These have the built-in bypass valve, the gm don't. If you are doing the bypass route, go to your local NAPA who has both the spin-on adapters and the filters.

What about some of these daily drivers that people have, what do they use (if any) for an oil filter?

You can use a spin-on on a bypass system as long as you install an oriface in the line to keep the engine from losing too much oil pressure. I'm not sure what size it is, but there should be an oriface on the output side of your cannister filter. Just duplicate it on the spin-on and you will be just fine.

So they dont filter much? I have a cannister style on my mystery smallblock in my '68 bus. What do these adapter kits entail?

I am using a dual remote oil filter kit from Jegs. It is made by Perma Cool??? and uses the ford style filters. I used 5/8 line and push on fittings from NAPA. In hindsight, it would have been cheaper to get the complete kit including lines; however those lines are 1/2 inch diameter. I have s single spin on filter (bypass) on my 302 without the restrictor orifice; the lines are small enough that I only loat two or three psi of oil pressure. If you only plan to use the bypass filter, I would check into the designed-for bypass filters. Maybe they aready have the built in restriction.

I think that we worry to much about hurting our engines and filtering our oil. Just throw a roll of toilet paper in your canister and forget about it. I have been doing this for over 20 years. When I had my 235 rebuilt, (the head was cracked), the crank, and lifters were fine. If we paid half of the attention to what we put in our own bodies, as to what we put into our engines, we'd be much better off. All of this effort into getting a few more miles out of our ancient motors seems kinda silly to me. Most of our beloved trucks will be running long after we are dead. That reminds me. I have to make out my will... :p

Can anyone clarify the difference in the filter and in the oil system in bypass vs. full-flow? I have no idea what it means

I used a marine style(Mercruiser)remote housing, and modified the braided stainless lines from the outdrive tilt hydraulics to install a spin on unit for my 235. It uses a standard #5 spin on cannister. I made certain that the lines going in AND out had a 1/8" restriction to maintain oil pressure where it is supposed to be. Pics are posted at www.picturetrail.com/yachtcare I'm in the group that believes some oil filtration is better than none.

I am using a spin-on filter on our 235. It is a remote by-pass filter and mount from NAPA. The filter is a NAPA 1320 and has the restrictor hole built in.

Built an adapter mount plate to fit the mounting bosses on the Offy intake to the oil filter mount and bolted it on. Plummed it with steel tubing instead of rubber hoses.

Found a nice chrome filter cover to dress it up a bit at Summit.

Works great and looks good!

by pass filters only filter about 10% of the oil. Full flow on the other hand filters all the oil.

In a full flow oil filter the oil flows from the pan to the pump, through the filter, and out to the bearings. In a bypass system the filter tees into the line after the pump and returns the oil it filters back to the pan without passing through the bearings. It still cleans the oil but doesn't offer the same level of protection to the bearings as the full flow does. On the plus side, a bypass filter can be made to capture very small particles since it doesn't have to flow very much oil. Some large marine and truck diesels use both full flow and bypass oil filters to clean the soot out of the oil and greatly extend the oil life.

hahahaha....good points!!! I have heard of the toilet paper thing before a few times. How often do you put a new roll in? Does it all come apart and go into the engine?

I'll bet he has cannister filters in his bathroom too

Sawby4president;if you unbolt your canister and look up into the recess thats cast into all chevy small block (except the 265),there,s 2 cap screws i believe from memory HA! :rolleyes: 1/4-20 that hold the center bolt for the canister to the block.the adaptor kits for the spin-on setup have a base plate that uses this same location with longer bolts everything used to come in these kits. only thingyou had to add was the filter. available at most 'decent' auto stores S/K Speed Car Quest,Autozone, steve sr.