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#1497034 04/18/2023 3:40 PM
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I’m wondering if anybody knows what’s the facts on there being an end to non-ethanol gas availability in BC.
Is this supposed to happen this year?
Gord , I had responded in the other thread about this, but more appropriate here in BC Bolters, suppose.
Gee, when is the weather going to warm up?
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This site https://www.pure-gas.org/ has a list of ethanol free gas sources in BC. I notice that it seems to be very much out of date, so I don't know how useful it is anymore.

There is a discussion on ethanol free gas on the Red Flag Deals site. Shell premium will now have ethanol.
https://forums.redflagdeals.com/shell-91-now-contains-ethanol-2573268/

Clean fuel regulations coming up: https://www.canada.ca/en/environmen...-regulations/clean-fuel-regulations.html

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British Columbia: the Renewable and Low Carbon Fuel Requirement mandates a 5% ethanol content in gasoline and 4% in diesel fuel. In addition, the province has a Low Carbon Fuel Standard, which aims to achieve a 20% reduction in fuel carbon intensity by 2030.

It seems that soon we will not be able to get ethanol free gas. I'm looking at the K100 and Stabil additives. Since premium gas is 20 to 25 cents / litre more expensive than regular, it's not a cost issue; just an inconvenience.

(missed your post in the other thread - I stopped reading it when they started talking about buying fuel in bulk)

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Thanks, Gord.
I’ll study this.


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No ethanol free at all eh... Chevron 94 has been the only "guaranteed" source of ethanol free, I'm not surprised but I am super disappointed. Common sense (and freedom of commercial choice) is completely out the window.


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I am hearing a lot of things about ethanol but to be honest I don't quite understand the problem. I have heard it destroys rubber parts in motors and some other places.
I have done over 75,000 miles on my 235 powered 49 plus hundreds of thousand kilometres in my 81 Malibu without issue.


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Aside from it affecting rubber parts, ethanol is only a problem when it sits for a few months. It separates and forms a gel like substance that clogs up carburetors. Over the years I have owned allot of gas powered equipment, snowmobiles, yard tractors, weed trimmers, lawn mowers, etc. Some sit for six months at a clip. Prior to the availability of non ethanol gas, I was cleaning three to six carbs a year and use if Stabil didn’t help. Since I switched to non ethanol, I don’t have that issue and my equipment usually starts up with no issue. Living in the North East, my truck sits from November thru May so that’s why I use nothing but non ethanol.

Now my issue is batteries. Don’t get me started!

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Originally Posted by Phak1
Aside from it affecting rubber parts, ethanol is only a problem when it sits for a few months. It separates and forms a gel like substance that clogs up carburetors.

Not only that - when sitting, ethanol can separate from the gas and also collects water, which can form rust and (together with bacteria) generate acetic acid that loves to eat carb housings for breakfast.
Since ethanol free gas in banned since 20ish years here in Germany, we (old car guys) buy something called "Labracin" which deals with that problem.

Labracin Not sure if it is available in the US, but I'm sure there is something similar.

I use it religiously sind 20 years now - especially cause my cars are siting over the winter, as long as we got salt on the roads - and never had a ethanol based problem.

Best, Frank

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Make your own "non ethanol" gas- - - -add a couple of quarts of filtered water to 5 gallons of gasoline in a tightly capped container, put it in the trunk of your car, and drive around for a few days. The ethanol will be absorbed by the water, and you can pour the undiluted gas off the top, carefully, since the water/alcohol mix is heavier than the gas and it settles to the bottom.
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Filled the tank on my car last week at the Co-Op. Noticed that the premium grade now contains ethanol - no more non-ethanol option there. My friend with his old English car tells me that Chevron is no longer selling non-ethanol gas. So, that's it - no more non-ethanol gas available here. Looks like I will have to buy a case of Sta-Bil.


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The Specialty Vehicle Association of BC sent something out about this at the beginning of December. They encouraged enthusiasts to email their MPs to get them to advocate in the House of Commons to keep one grade ethanol free. There is now a petition for Ethanol Free Gasoline for Collectors Cars which can be accessed on their website: sva.bc.ca.


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I signed the petition.


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