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#1492585 03/17/2023 3:25 AM
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Going Saturday to check out a 52 one ton and wanted to know if there's anything specific I should what out for. It's a driver so, I will put it through it's paces.
My uncle is concerned it will be extra stiff being a long bed one ton. By the pics it's complete and not rotted. In person will tell if that's true.

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Here's some pics of what I'm going to see. This is one time playing 52 pickup won't mean picking up a deck of cards.
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Looks like a decent unmolested truck. thumbs_up


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Well I have a 51 1 Ton and my concern is that someone might get there before you get there!!!


1951 GMC 1 Ton Flatbed -- It is finally on the road and what a great time I have driving it!
1951 1 Ton Completed


My Chevy Master 4 Door is on the Road!
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That looks like a great truck to start a project with. Glad to see another 1 ton out there. My truck is a 1950 1 ton with the 9' bed, been in our family since new. Specific parts to the 1 ton are the 9' bed sides, longer running boards, longer filler panels between the bed and the running board, and a bit different front bed panel (is available new). The tailgate and most other body parts are shared by the 1/2 and 3/4 ton trucks. Mechanically, the rear brake drums will probably be the hardest thing to get ahold of. Wheel cylinders, master cylinder, brake shoes are all available. These 1 tons will ride pretty stiff, not much comfort was ever built in to them, but it's great driving them, You get a lot of looks when driving them around, I'm sure most young guys today never knew a truck with a stock 9' bed ever existed. I know I will never get rid of mine, good luck on Saturday, don't be scared to take a chance on it just because it's a 1 ton. It is certainly worth restoring, hope you can swing a deal on it if it's something you really want. Thanks, Tom

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Definitely loooks to be pretty complete, which is a great starting point.

Assuming that you are not planning to use it as a daily cruiser the rougher ride shouldn't be a problem.


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OH47pickupman It's not a 1-ton,no duals,looks like a 3600 3/4 ton 9 foot bed ,truckernix is right...get on over there and get a grip on that title take cash !! With tire and suspension work you can make that ride like a baby buggy.

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Just because it doesn't have duals doesn't mean its not a 1 ton. The 9' bed came on 1 tons with single rear wheels, like my '58.


1949 Chevy 3100 (In the family since new)
1955.5 Chevy 3100 - in the DITY Gallery - (Dad's truck)
1955 Chevy 6500 - in Big Bolts - (Possible parts truck?)
1958 Chevy 3800 w/9 ft bed - in Project Journals - (Current project)
1959 Chevy Spartan 10400 - in Big Bolts
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OH47Pickupman.

If you don't already have it, check out 1952 Chevrolet Truck Data.

It's a downloadable/printable PDF file with all the original GM data and specs you can use to help identify/confirm things on the prospective new truck.

Another resource with less technical but similar related info is 1952 Chevrolet Trucks brochure.

Looking forward to seeing how your visit and prospective deal turns out!

Dan


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Originally Posted by Possum
Just because it doesn't have duals doesn't mean its not a 1 ton. The 9' bed came on 1 tons with single rear wheels, like my '58.

I would agree. We had a '46 1 ton pickup when I was growing up. It also had the long pickup bed and no dual wheels.


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My ‘47.1 one ton had singles, also.
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'37 GMC T-18 w/ DD 4-53T, RTO-610, 6231 aux., '95 GMC running gear, full disc brakes, power steering, 22.5 wheels and tires.
'47 GMC 1 ton w/ 302, NP-540, 4wd, full width Blazer front axle.
'54 GMC 630 w/ 503 gasser, 5 speed, ex fire truck, shortened WB 4', install 8' bed.
'55 GMC 370 w/270, 420 4 speed, grain, dump bed truck from ND. Works OK.
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Possum I'm not a ton expert,had I think 2 in my fleet of 30 in about 50 years. Correct me if I'm wrong the ton trucks had a screw on hub cap (the little one about 2 1/2 inches) with a hex made on it maybe 8 flats. 3/4 ton had a drive on cap like a 3100 on the front hubs. I guess we'll see if oh47pickupman lands this one.

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Ed Pruss Those are the same wheels my 51 3600 has on a rear axxle installed by a previous owner to haul heavy canned milk.Added spring leaves too. I somehow missed the fact that my ton wheels (same as yours ) are chevy. After several years needed tires,my local tire guy said since that is not a hiway truck we could put on rib-imp worth the money. I cleaned them up with a needle scaler painted with por 15,there still just fine,sleep in out of the weather.

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Originally Posted by Possum
Just because it doesn't have duals doesn't mean its not a 1 ton. The 9' bed came on 1 tons with single rear wheels, like my '58.
My 1950 1 Ton doesn't have duals!


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Originally Posted by fixite7
Possum I'm not a ton expert,had I think 2 in my fleet of 30 in about 50 years. Correct me if I'm wrong the ton trucks had a screw on hub cap (the little one about 2 1/2 inches) with a hex made on it maybe 8 flats. 3/4 ton had a drive on cap like a 3100 on the front hubs. I guess we'll see if oh47pickupman lands this one.
My truck has the cap that taps on, I think it would be the same for oh47pickupman's '52 as well.
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1949 Chevy 3100 (In the family since new)
1955.5 Chevy 3100 - in the DITY Gallery - (Dad's truck)
1955 Chevy 6500 - in Big Bolts - (Possible parts truck?)
1958 Chevy 3800 w/9 ft bed - in Project Journals - (Current project)
1959 Chevy Spartan 10400 - in Big Bolts
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According to the Dealer Data Book, on the 3800 model ADs (1-tons), DRWs were an option available on the:

3802/3812 -- Flat faced cowl, and cowl and windshield
3803 -- Cab and Chassis
3808 -- Cab and Chassis with platform body (Flatbed)
3809 -- Cab and Chassis with stakebody

Not available on:
3804 -- Pickup
3805 -- Panel
3807 -- Canopy Express


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1949 Chevrolet 3804
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1973 IH 1310 Dump
1963 Kaiser M38A1
2001 International/AmTran RE3000 "Skoolie"
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On 1 tons the front wheel hubs differ from single rear wheel to dual rear wheel. The hub in the post above would be a single rear wheel. John


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Originally Posted by John Milliman
According to the Dealer Data Book, on the 3800 model ADs (1-tons), DRWs were an option available on the:

3802/3812 -- Flat faced cowl, and cowl and windshield
3803 -- Cab and Chassis
3808 -- Cab and Chassis with platform body (Flatbed)
3809 -- Cab and Chassis with stakebody

Not available on:
3804 -- Pickup
3805 -- Panel
3807 -- Canopy Express

Probably because the "availables" didn't have rear fenders and the "not availables" did.


'57 GMC 102, Original 347 V8, HydraMatic, 3.08 rear gear, added A/C, disk front brakes, HEI, AFB carb, '98 Honda Black Currant paint. T-boned and totaled 10/12
'52 GMC 152 Stake Bed, Original 228, SM420, added A/C, HEI, disk front brakes, '67 Chev 3.55 rear gear. Gets used as a real truck.
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Mechanically, the one-tons are a different animal from their 3/4-ton cousins. The frame is the 1-1/2 ton one with pickup-specific axles and wheels, same wheel base. Springs, front and rear, are 2 inch, like the 1-1/2 ton; driveline is open with a carrier bearing in the middle, like the 1-1/2 ton; Front axle is unique to 1-ton as are king-pins and hubs, tie-rod-ends and drag link. Brakes are unique. Look for Bendix brakes, with which some of the earlier one have been retro-fitted. That's worth several hundred dollars extra. All in all, its a much heavier duty pickup and they are hard to wear out. With care it'll likely outlast any of us.


1951 3800 1-ton
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1962 261 (w/cam, Fenton headers, 2 carbs, MSD ign.), SM420 & Brown-Lipe 6231A 3spd aux. trans, stock axles & brakes. Owned since 1971.
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Spot on, Tommy! Here's my unrestored '49 3804 (the Stovebolt.com flagship smile ) working today. It is a much happier truck with some weight in the back. Huck brakes and bias plys even ...

3800's rock!
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Unloading at the Stovebolt HQ woodpile.
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Ole Charlie is squatting a bit -- handled the load just fine.
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Partially unloaded. It was all white oak.


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1949 Chevrolet 3804
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1973 IH 1310 Dump
1963 Kaiser M38A1
2001 International/AmTran RE3000 "Skoolie"
2014 Ford E-350 4x4 (Quigley)
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That's unrestored?! Wow. But glad to see the inside of the tailgate is more scratched up than mine.


1951 3800 1-ton
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Now thats a sharp 3800 John cool


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1955.5 Chevy 3100 - in the DITY Gallery - (Dad's truck)
1955 Chevy 6500 - in Big Bolts - (Possible parts truck?)
1958 Chevy 3800 w/9 ft bed - in Project Journals - (Current project)
1959 Chevy Spartan 10400 - in Big Bolts
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Originally Posted by Bill Hanlon
Probably because the "availables" didn't have rear fenders and the "not availables" did.

Bill -- That could very well be the case. I have seen two earlier MY 1-tons (see pics below) that were duallie pickups. The '46 is owned by Jim Carter and is a beautiful restoration. It is very factory.

Not sure about the '38. It appears to be a factory job and missing its fender extensions.

I have never seen, smelt nor heard of an AD factory 1-ton Duallie. The data book would tell us that they were not made.
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Jim Carter's '46 1-ton express duallie
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A '38 we saw at Macungie quite a few years ago
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The bed and fenders of the '38


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1949 Chevrolet 3804
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1973 IH 1310 Dump
1963 Kaiser M38A1
2001 International/AmTran RE3000 "Skoolie"
2014 Ford E-350 4x4 (Quigley)
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John-

The Jim Carter truck MAY be factory, but the fit and finish on the '38 has me doubting that it came from the factory. Would the factory have put "tubs" on the inside of the bed?

No particular knowledge on my part, just an opinion.


'57 GMC 102, Original 347 V8, HydraMatic, 3.08 rear gear, added A/C, disk front brakes, HEI, AFB carb, '98 Honda Black Currant paint. T-boned and totaled 10/12
'52 GMC 152 Stake Bed, Original 228, SM420, added A/C, HEI, disk front brakes, '67 Chev 3.55 rear gear. Gets used as a real truck.
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You raise a valid question, Bill. I think the truck may have been a 1.5-ton, too. An after-market bed then?


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1949 Chevrolet 3804
In the Legacy Gallery | In the Gallery Forum
1973 IH 1310 Dump
1963 Kaiser M38A1
2001 International/AmTran RE3000 "Skoolie"
2014 Ford E-350 4x4 (Quigley)
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Hopefully Jim can bring his truck to the KC Roundup to tell us more?

Don


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1946 2-Ton grain truck
1946 3/4-ton pickup,
1953 1-ton pickup
1957 1-ton flatbed dually,
1954 Pontiac Straight Eight
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To further settle the point ...

Pulled the "hub cap" off one of my front wheels today at the show and grabbed a shot of the actual hub cap. the 3804's (or any of the SRW 1-tons) have the press in cap.
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~ John

A kid raised on Hotwheels, Matchbox and Tonka cannot be reasonably expected to own only one vehicle as an adult.

1949 Chevrolet 3804
In the Legacy Gallery | In the Gallery Forum
1973 IH 1310 Dump
1963 Kaiser M38A1
2001 International/AmTran RE3000 "Skoolie"
2014 Ford E-350 4x4 (Quigley)

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