The Stovebolt Site Forums The Shop Area Paint and Body Shop $50 dollar paint job that looks great!!!

I got this post off the HAMB site where there was a link to a Mopar site. A fellow Canadian came up with this info and it created the longest post this Mopar site had ever had. I think there was around 40 some pages when it finally ended. Another Canadian edited it into this abbreviated form.

Post shortened by moderator. Please post links to long stuff like this but do not copy/paste. It really clogs up the forum.

Thanks.

Chevy Nut,


I think it need more trimming....quite a bit more.

Stuart

I've been following that thread on the mopar site for several months now. One of these days I'm gonna try it on my '67.

I have been following that same thread for about a year now and decided to try it out...what the heck. My truck was a 20 footer...the old guy I bought it from painted over anything and there were runs, rust blisters, orange peel, dirt, so it was time. It is also a work truck, so I didn't want to freak when I scratched it hauling mulch or something.

The original thread was about Tremclad, the Canadian company owned by Rustoleum. It has since expanded to Rustoleum and a boat topside paint called Brightside..which is what I am using. By the way it is almost an exact match to my Windsor Blue.

I have done the front fenders with four coats...I am really happy with the way they came out. The cab and hood are in their primer now and they will be next. I will post some pictures a little later today.

Chuck

Hotrod magazine used that thread as the basis for an article in this month's issue (July 2007). They repainted 1962 Falcon using this method for a total of $98 all supplies included. Pretty unbiased article too giving the pros and cons. Just be prepared for lots of buffing.

new photos added on link below. make sure and look under "all my photos" section...can't get them over to the truck album.

Blue50 was there a reason you primered everything? The article in Hotrod gave as one of the advantages the fact that Rustoleum can be used over either a scuffed surface, filler or bare metal and thus eliminates the need for a primer.

robin58,
I didn't use the Rustoleum...I used a boat topside polyurethane called Brightside that is meant to be brushed or rolled on. I did some bodywork and didn't want to worry about coverage.

Blue 50. your truck looks great! so was it brush, roller, spray, and a lotttttttttt of buffing or what?

Bowties.
Thanks! I'm pretty happy with the way it is turning out. It's hard to tell from the pictures but it really lays down nice and self levels.

I'm using 4" white foam rollers from Menards. No buffing yet as I still have to do final wet sand with 1500 grit.

Chuck

Is it me? I don't see a link to the HAMB thread.

Bill

OK Blue 50 do you have to "cut" out around things that your roller cannot get to ie: inside round fenders near the bedside and running bds, and if so do you trim with an expensive brush or a foam brush. This is hard to believe that this is Rustoleum, The Mopar forum said that the paint was like Rustoleum,but just another name but I'm cornfused :^) Thanx

TxLaTx, Im with you but thanx to toomany2count, he is johnny on the spot! Thanx guys
-bowtie

Bowties,
First off..the original post on Mopar was from a Canadian guy that used Tremclad, which is owned my Rustoleum but is a Canadian company. It is similar to Rustoleum but apparantly there are some subtle differences.

As that thread progressed...someone decided to try a topside paint made for boats called Brightside...that is what I am using. It is meant to be brushed or rolled on but also be sprayed.

As to getting to those hard to reach places, the guys that use Tremclad/Rustoleum use a foam brush OR they are using a spay can of the matching color ( like door jambs, trunks etc,,)

I have my fenders, grill and bed off the truck so there are not that many places the 4" roller can't reach. I will be using a small foam brush for areas like the rain/drip rails on top of the cab and around wipers.

Did that answer your questions?

Chuck

Hey Blue 50 check your pm, and yes that did answer my questions. Thanx--Mike

Chuck. Nice truck.

I pulled up the site on Interlux Brightside and read about the paint and roller painting. That is interesting. The paint also has UV protection.

Are you doing the 4 coats and mixing coats as recommended?

Thanks

Dennis,
Thanks. I am doing 4 coats but with a little different formula. I am thinning 10% or so with Penetrol and a splash of mineral spirits. So far it is laying down like glass. I am very happy with the way it is turning out. This morning I painted the hood with one coat and will paint cowl, most of the cab and one door tomorrow. I have found that it is best to mix in small batches and take a section at a time, especially when the humidity is high.

Chuck

Man you guys have sold me, thats the way I am going from now on. I have been spaying in my driveway - always alittle worried about getting turned in and possibly poisioning myself. Sounds like thats the paint for me. Thanks much for that info, Tom.

This is very interesting reading. I'm here because I walked into a restorer's shop in Los Angeles on Friday to get some pricing on paint work. He showed me a device that will rotate the vehicle in a somewhat rotiserie style. There would be no need for the removal of fenders etc. with the use of this lift. The cost.....$20K. A frame off job would triple the price. I checked out the Mopar link and was amazed at the quality he was able to get from a roller and sanding. Also Blue's results are giving be some pause. He has'nt sanded yet either. Although I must say Blue looked pretty good in the original red finish too.

stratkat64,
just for the record...I have sanded after coat two and three but have not done the final wetsand before buffing.
The original red finish was on a different truck...a 53 3600 that I owned before Blue...I loved that patina too!!

Chuck

When this thread first started here on Stovebolt, I had already turned an old Barden bumper over to a local body shop, to be straightened and painted. After a month of waiting, the shop owner called me to come by and "let's talk about what's next." (Never good news.) He said he was unable to cross reference the Dupont paint code for Bombay Ivory, and wanted to know what I wanted him to do next, as in "paint some other color." While there, he showed me the bumper and wings. He had only straightened the bumper and filled a couple holes. The priming was mediocre at best. I told him I wanted to stop work and pay him for work done to date. No reason to prolong the misery.

If there was ever an application to try this roll-on painting technique, I'd think it would be on a farm bumper. At the very worst, it will look like what this guy was going to deliver to me.

I'll take some pictures to show before/after conditions and post them if anyone has an interest in seeing the results of my efforts. I plan to use plain ol' white Rustoleum, and the thinning/rolling process discussed on the MoPar boards.

Bill

Where can one purchase this TREMCLAD or BRIGHTSIDE paint? Thanks

called Rustoleum in the USA, 8th

TxLaTx - if you can find the "Recreational White" it's close to Bombay Ivory

Bill

Yo Joe...
I just saw ya over on the Mopar site....and yea I need to come back home to see my Dad for Father's Day....but you know how it is...the "old days" may catch up with me and anyway I don't think I am allowed back in St.Clair county until 2020!!!

Seriously....when Blue gets back together, I would luv to do a short road trip back home...I'll let ya know.

Chuck

Bill- Thanks for the tip to "Recreational White." (I assume that is the Rustoleum/Tremclad name.) Sounds like you've at least set foot on this road before. Did you have acceptable results?

I'm not expecting ultra-high gloss, but a 15 foot paint job would be nice...especially on a bumper! At this point, I could spend up to $175 on materials and still be ahead of the game. I'm going to save receipts and see how much I end up spending on a $50 paint job.

Bill

Bill, I came up with Chrysler 'pearl white' [Centari #B8173A1] for the Bombay Ivory on the 58, but use a lot of Tremclad around the place, and found that the Recreational White is real close to that ... yes, their name, and I think meant to match outdoor furniture and RV clading

I do like Tremclad, goes on good, holds up well, easy to touch up

Bill

Will the Rustoleum in the can from Lowes or Home Depot do? Having trouble finding the brand Tremclad.

Tremclad is only available in Canada.

Yes the rustoleum is the big box sold variety.

I'd really suggest reading the entire thread at moparts which is divided into multiple parts. You'll get a good insight into the pros and cons of rustoleum and why the current trend is to use Brightside which has UV protection. It's more expensive but being it is designed for marine use is probably a far better paint with better durability than rustoleum.

US Tremclad/Rustoleum dealers - same product

the problem I'd have with Brightside is Interlux paints are designed and intended for use on wood/fiberglas, tho' maybe it doesn't make any difference

Bill

Yup you're right Joe, makes it easier though if you'd been following the thread for a couple of years.

I think it is OK for all surfaces judging by the Product Data Sheet:

Here is a really cool boil-up of the 40+ page thread. One of the guys participating summarized it and made it its own website.

(Don't forget to check his links for more info.)

Bill

July 2007 issue of Hot Rod has an 8 page feature called "The $98 Paint Job", where they roller-paint a Falcon.

Bill

I think I said that about 32 posts ago in this thread

Heck that was so long ago I thought it was another issue!

Hard to remember stuff on a long thread, and harder yet to have the discipline to go back and read all the posts. Sorry for the repeat.

Finished my bumper project. It looks pretty good, especially considering that I have ~$15 invested in the paint! I doubt I'd paint a car with the method based on my limited skills, but for a bumper, it saved me $175 that the body shop wanted. They weren't even going to fill the pits, and planned to paint it some other white besides Bombay Ivory.

Bill

i thought thats how they painted all MOPARS? seems like a reasonable way to paint your rig. i'm just going to enlist the local 2nd grade class and out fit them with 4" rollers and turn them loose. wish i had a old truck to paint when i was in art class