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Stopped at a garage sale a few weeks back and for $8 took home one of those
little 8" swing (4" spindle to post), import drill presses. Thought it would be handy
to have over on the shop side bench where I do my truck, tractor and lawn care
equipment work.
Reason it went for eight bucks was the motor is kaput. Just hums when you switch
it on. I took a gamble that it had a bad capacitor but that's ok so the motor probably
has a bad winding.
So.....any ideas where I can find one of those small 1/3 hp 1750 rpm motors for
those little import drill presses.....cheap????
I don't think these are really 1/3 hp motors cuz they're really quite small for that
size motor. Been to Grainger YIKES, as usual, I could buy three new drill presses
for what Grainger wants for a motor. Didn't find anything on Ebay either.
If they can sell these complete presses for fifty or sixty bucks, you would think that
you could find a motor for one on the cheap.
And to top it off, the output shaft looks like it's some darn oddball metric size like
14 mm (.551 in.). That's not a problem, cuz I can bore the pulley or machine a sleeve
It.
Denny G

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Tractor Supply sells a few electric motors. Might look on their site.🛠


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Did a quick Google, yikes, folks are really proud of them. Did find a couple on evil bay under $20.


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Is it a HF drill press? If so, give them a call and see if they can supply a replacement motor.


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NG SS. All to big as I posted, this motor is very small for a 1/3 hp.
That's why I believe the Chinese over-rate them by about two fold.
4 1/2" dia x 5 1/2" tall. I'd make a bracket up for a 1/3 hp wash machine
motor if they weren't so big around.
Also.....as posted....doesn't make good sense to put a $125 motor
from McMaster or Grainger on an $8 drill press. Even new these
little toys can be found for around $50. I think I saw a flyer from
HF for one at $59 the other day. I wouldn't go out and buy one of
these new for my shop, but for eight bucks I thought it might be
handy on the end of the bench to just punch out a rivet or some
other meager task when I didn't want to run to the other end of the
barn. I have a large Buffalo floor model industrial DP and a good
old trusty Craftsman floor model that has been in the family for more
than a half a century, both....from when they used to make decent
tools in this country.

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I haven't bought a new electric motor in a lot of years. Angle iron, 1/4" plate, and a little creativity can go a long way to make whatever's handy fit. My Atlas floor model drill press has two motors with a 3:1 reduction ratio and a Sprag clutch on the low speed motor to keep from overspeeding it. It's got 24 speeds. My Sunnen hone has the same setup, and 8 speeds. I doubt if I've got more than $75.00 invested in modifying both machines.

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No problem finding a “real” 1/3 hp motor, I’ve been collecting for some time.
http://www.pbase.com/dennygraham/image/166598505 The problem is finding
one small enough that I don’t have to butcher up the machine. See…I don’t like to
have butchered up equipment in my shop.
As you can see….it would take some real hacking away at the shroud to make a
“real” 1/3 hp motor work on this drill press.
http://www.pbase.com/dennygraham/image/166598503
This is why I’ve posted a couple of times….that I don’t see how they could
rate this motor at 1/3 hp and that I’d like to find a source for these little off shore
motors.
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Looks like the same kind of motor used on things like dishwashers or clothes washers. You might cruise the local salvage yards or check with an appliance repair place for a junker that has a motor that still works.


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Way smaller than those Kevin, actually about half the size of a wash machine motor.
I've probably got a few of those laying around anyway, since I don't throw anything away.
The whole reason I bothered to post this here is because in my 75 years I've not seen
an AC motor that is this physical size. I thought out of the tens of thousands of 'Bolters,
that one of you might have run into the same problem since these are very, very common.
They very same model is sold by Summit, JEGS, DX Engineering, Walmart, Harbor Freight,
CarParts, Amazon, all over Ebay, JB Tools, Sears, Northern Tool, JC Whitney, Lowes and on and on.
Very Very common little toy drill press and I'm sure I'm not the first one to find a bad motor.
The motor that's sitting on top of the cover is the typical size for a 1/3 hp. It would look pretty
stupid to hang one that size off the back of this little tool.
Well I guess I've about rung out as much information here that I can. Thanks for the comments.
Time to move on, I've wasted way to much time already on an $8 toy.
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DG;

Have you tried contacting Harbor Freight to see if they sell parts for your unit? It might be worth an email to get some prices before you chuck your $8 toy. Good luck.

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Got three local HF stores Sim. Asking next time I'm in one is definitely on the list.
Although, I'm sure what they will say is, they can't order replacement parts for any
of their tools. Even Sears, the last couple of decades can't supply many replacement
parts, and at one time they went back 40 or 50 years. I know because many of the
tools in my shop are rebuilt Craftsman that were decades old when I got them.
But......not any more it's a throw away world and Sears is going the way of
Montgomery Ward and so many others.
tks
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I've got the "Woodsy Owl" approach to equipment- - - - - -"WHOOOOOO- - - - - -CARES?" what it looks like, as long as it gets the job done? Of course, I once drove a Volkswagen beetle for 50K+ miles with flathead Ford V8 piston rings and Corvair wrist pins in it after J.C. Whitney refused to sell me a set of rings for my big-bore cylinder kit! 82 MM is 3 1/16" plus .040"- - - -which just happens to be a normal overbore for an 85 HP flathead V8. The bigger wrist pins were used to correct a little bit of a sloppy fit of the original pins in the big bore pistons.

Parts don't know, or care what they're used with, and getting the job done is far more important than having a personality trait that could be cured by a good dose of castor oil!
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And Jerry old buddy....after more than a decade, you orta know how anal I am...so.....
that may be the way the machines in your shop shape up.....but quite simply....not
in mine. If it ain't right....it don't belong here. (It's a disease you know!)

Don't cha Remember the motor connection box cover for my Bridgeport Mill??? I wouldn't run
it till I found just the right cover to finish off the restore...then some guy down in Dellrose, TN
sent me one he had around his shop. By the way, thanks again, now it looks right and I
can sleep at night. And the grease for my engine lathe dead center.....that now uses
the proper "White Lead" lube thanks to the same guy from TN. And......thanks again for that too.

I really don't "need" this toy....just thought it would come in handy at the end of
the bench for small light duty jobs . If I can't make it look right, then I may just
toss it on the scrap pile for the next load.

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I made a living, fed my family, and paid for a hundred acres of Tennessee by making my tools and equipment get the job done- - - - -not sit there like museum pieces. We just have a very different idea of what's acceptable, and I'll wager I'm a lot more picky about the things that really count- - - -like getting fussy about half a thousandth on a rod bearing's oil clearance, etc. There's a difference in being practical about how something looks, and just being ridiculous!
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Denny, I feel your pain. Some folk say I'm a little OCD. I say, I know if I'm missing a wrench at a glance. Practical.
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Denny, don't hold your breath but if I can get back to my father in laws before next year I may be able to help. George had a small drill set up that really sounds like what you need. I know it had a dang small motor on it. He used it mainly when he was building small airplanes as a hobby. Not sure when I can get back down there though. (Victoria back in hospital today)


Oh my gosh Mark, not you too. Well, I tain't that bad but I am close.

....however, the older I get the easier it is for me to step over something than it tis to pick it up!


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Sorry to hear that Alvin, we're all hoping for the best. Only met you guys once,
that was down in KC when Pete and I had breakfast with you guys. But right
off the bat I could tell she was a fine lady with an equally fine old man. You
guys are good people and you don't deserve all the pain you've endured this year.

It's not OCD Mark, I'm just particular about certain things.
I called Harbor Freight's replacement parts number yesterday. The answer was,
"Part not available, probably because the part cost more than the whole unit."
So there, end of story.
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I'm thinking DG has issue with the "disorder" component of the OCD term. Me too. That is why I am a total slob. I am therefore OCS. smile
My shop is such a mess right now, I need a leaf blower, rake, grain shovel, and a big magnet to get back to a workable state.
We need people like DG and Mark to give us something to dream about in hopes to do better.
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Dream?- - - - - -make that "nightmare!"

LOL!
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I could tell stories, but let's get back on topic and help Denny with his issue!

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Hey Denny- - - - -have you sent that Harbor Fright drill press to the scrap heap yet? If not, hold onto your knickers- - - - -I've got a motor for it! The correct motor, even- - - -built by some 12 year old Chinese slave laborer, most likely!

Call, write, send up a smoke signal, launch a carrier pigeon, or just reply here, and I'll give you some details!
Jerry


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The silence is deafening!
LOL!
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Busy shipping the in laws back to NC Jerry. Sent ya a PM.
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Try again- - - -it didn't come through!
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Got a double post showin' in my PM's Jerry. Might have been running a little behind ya.
You know....it takes us old timers a while to catch up.

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No problem- - - - -my little press will be getting a couple of real motors- - - -just as ugly as I can possibly make it!
LOL!
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Just wanted to let the group know, Mr. Hotrod Lincoln sent me
a Christmas present. A brand new exact replacement motor
so I can put this little drill press back in the light duty service
it was intended for. .
Thanks Jerry, you're all right no matter what they say about ya!
(Just kiddin' buddy, you've been a big help over the years)
Ya'll have a merry one and a prosperous new year.
Denny Graham
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Glad to help- - - - -but be aware I'm going to post a few pictures of a redneck drill press pretty soon- - - -one that will give you cold chills, Mr. Original!
LOL!
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