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on the Internet for over 30 years! and not clogged down with Ads! Again, thanks! | | | | Joined: Jun 2013 Posts: 148 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: Jun 2013 Posts: 148 | I have 54 235 with all new fuel components. From the frame up it's all new parts because it's a daily driver. I have installed Tom Langdons dual carb set up 2 years ago. Truck runs great. We live in Tucson so it's always HOT. My problem is this. When you go out for a drive of an hour or so and park in the garage, the fuel smell will knock you down when you come from the house back into the garage. I was a mechanic for 35 years and there is no problem like this with fuel injection because it is pretty much a closed system. All fumes are caught by the charcoal canister then recycled back into the intake the next time you run the motor. Tom Langdons carbs have an open float bowl vent tube. So in this Arizona heat the fuel really evaporates and boils in the carbs. THIS is my question or answer to this problem. Can you run rubber lines from these vent tubes out the bottom of the air filter housing to a charcoal canister and use a purge valve to open the sealed system back up when you start the motor again? This should help with the fumes I think and still be able to vent the float bowl when the motor is running. Let me know what you guys think of this idea or am I all wet?
Thanks for all the help Tony
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| | | | | Joined: Feb 2000 Posts: 5,242 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Feb 2000 Posts: 5,242 | It should work, really no different then any other vapor catch system. My fuel tank vent smelled really bad, so I gathered a couple of old charcoal canisters and emptied them into a large glass jar. I then soldered two tubes in the lid, one long and one short. On the long tube I added a small filter and hooked it to the tank vent. The other tube has a hose going to the atmosphere. Most all my vapor smells went away, and the charcoal is self cleaning since the fuel pump is pulling air into the tank through the charcoal and filter.
A lot of what you are smelling is fuel left in the intake. Try leaning it out a bit, my dual W-1's smelled pretty bad till I leaned the idle mixture. Letting it set outside for 5 or 10 minutes also helps dry out the intake. The little bit of running into the garage doesn't create quite as much stink on my truck. | | | | | Joined: Jun 2011 Posts: 5,096 Crusing in the Passing Lane | | Crusing in the Passing Lane Joined: Jun 2011 Posts: 5,096 | With dual carbs replacing the original single, it might be hard to get it lean enough, worth trying, though. What color is the inside of exhaust pipe when shut down after a hard run?
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| | | | | Joined: Jun 2004 Posts: 8,597 Riding in the Passing Lane | | Riding in the Passing Lane Joined: Jun 2004 Posts: 8,597 | I have that problem with every vehicle I put in the garage that doesn't have an evaporator system. I have put a system on the vehicle if it has a vent tube on the carb. Sometimes I have to put a wet towel over the carb/s to soak up the fumes. My garage is under the house & the odor gets in the house. They say money can't buy happiness. It can buy old Chevy trucks though. Same thing. 1972 Chevy c10 Cheyenne SuperIn the Gallery Forum | | | | | Joined: Jan 2000 Posts: 2,074 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Jan 2000 Posts: 2,074 | Also check the gasket on the tank sender. I've had problems with these not sealing. Good luck | | | | | Joined: Jun 2013 Posts: 148 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: Jun 2013 Posts: 148 | Answer to some of your replies. 1) there are no fumes inside cab so I believe the hoses and sender are sealed well. 2)The tailpipe has always been black with the single carb and with the duals after a long hwy drive. 3) Did you get your evaporator system from used cars or was it a specific model of car? Thanks for the the great ideas. Tony
| | | | | Joined: Jun 2004 Posts: 8,597 Riding in the Passing Lane | | Riding in the Passing Lane Joined: Jun 2004 Posts: 8,597 | Answer to # 3. I get them at the salvage yard. Look for older models that have 2 or 3 outlets. They say money can't buy happiness. It can buy old Chevy trucks though. Same thing. 1972 Chevy c10 Cheyenne SuperIn the Gallery Forum | | | | | Joined: Nov 2014 Posts: 164 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Nov 2014 Posts: 164 | I second JiMerit's tip to check the gasket on your fuel tank sender. Mine was torn & the garage reeked of gas. Replaced it and the smell is gone.
~Denny 1953 Chevy 3100 w/1960 261 cid, 848 head | Weber 32/36 progressive 2 barrel carb. | Three on the tree & 3:55 torque tube | 12 V w/Gener-Nator & 6 V starter In the Gallery Forum1998 Chevy Suburban 350 ci awd/4wd | | | | | Joined: Jun 2013 Posts: 148 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: Jun 2013 Posts: 148 | Thanks Wrenchbender I try the salvage yards for parts. The tank unit has a new gasket and there is no smell inside cab. Thanks all Tony | | | | | Joined: Jun 2013 Posts: 148 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: Jun 2013 Posts: 148 | update on fuel smell. I cannot find any tubes that run out of the float chamber. Tom Langdon's carbs have an electric solenoid in place to block routing of the float chamber exit. There is also a ball bearing pushed in the hole that I believe a tube would exit. Looks like this is going to be a real head scratcher. The trigger wire has also been cut off the solenoid. On an older version I saw that there was a tube that exited where the ball bearing is now. This updated stuff really sucks. Tony | | | | | Joined: Sep 2001 Posts: 29,270 Bubba - Curmudgeon | | Bubba - Curmudgeon Joined: Sep 2001 Posts: 29,270 | Tom Langdon sells/sold a variety of carburetors.
Which model/type carbs are you referring to?
What size engine are you using them on? | | | | | Joined: Jun 2013 Posts: 148 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: Jun 2013 Posts: 148 | Toms SKU number was 08-8011 Metal tag on carb says E2EF J2A A3J 1
printed in ink on carb is 2244
They are 2 barrel progressive, electric chokes, Sold on July 18 2013 $180.00 Carter / Weber on a 1956 235 hydraulic lifter motor
I hope this helps Tim
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| | | | | Joined: Sep 2001 Posts: 29,270 Bubba - Curmudgeon | | Bubba - Curmudgeon Joined: Sep 2001 Posts: 29,270 | How do you have the electric chokes set-up (powered)?
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