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#1104368 05/23/2015 3:31 PM
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Wondering if this is a good option?
I have the chance to buy approximately 100 boards of dry birch that measure anywhere from 3/4" to 1&1/4" thick, 7-8" wide, and up to 110" long. The guy wants $300.
I know that I could make some of them work for a 1/2 ton at least.
Is birch a good wood? I like the grain I saw yesterday. Is the price reasonable? I might be able to resell the leftovers to a couple buddies who like to do wood work.
Thanks


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Birch is beautiful wood especially boards with character. It would not be suitable for bed wood if it will be subjected to the elements. It is prone to rotting.
Carl


1952 5-window - return to "as built" condition | 1950 3100 with a 235 and a T-5 transmission
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I don't plan on my trucks being worked at all. Just driven when it's nice out. I plan on sealing up the wood quite well. Should be ok I think under these circumstances. Their hauling days are long over. smile


1970 Chevrolet C10
Grandpa's -- My first truck -- In progress to shiny
Follow the build in the Project Journal
1950 Chevrolet 1-Ton Dually
"Ole Red Girl"
In the Stovebolt Gallery
More pictures here
1951 GMC 9430 1 ton dually--Shiny! | 1972 Chevrolet C20- Rusty- the puzzle box lid for the C10 | 1962 AMC Rambler American- my wife's
Parts trucks-
1951 GMC 9300 | 1951-GMC 9430 | 1951- Chevrolet 1300
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It would still absorb too much moisture and rot from the inside. Not a good choice. $300 is pretty high for the square feet you need for the bed. (being Birch). Just saying. (you know me, just trying to get my post count up!)


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Hi Fox - I work a lot with wood and birch really is terrible outdoor wood. I learned that the hard way many years ago.

Given the effort to mill the stuff to size and seal it properly, personally I wouldn't use it if it were free. In my neck of the woods the price is awesome, but only if you wanted to make furniture or cabinets with it.

Good Luck



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I bought the wood for my bed from Mar-K. It is the correct Southern Yellow Pine and was beautiful #1 material.
http://www.mar-k.com/Catalog/catalog.aspx


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Bought mine from Mar-K also. Beautiful wood and it's pine. Just like what came on the truck from the factory. Same money and a LOT LESS WORK for you than having to make bed boards from scratch.


Chuck
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1951 Chevy 1/2 ton (future streetrod)
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Seems to be unanimous! Thanks guys for the heads up. I'll pass on it.


1970 Chevrolet C10
Grandpa's -- My first truck -- In progress to shiny
Follow the build in the Project Journal
1950 Chevrolet 1-Ton Dually
"Ole Red Girl"
In the Stovebolt Gallery
More pictures here
1951 GMC 9430 1 ton dually--Shiny! | 1972 Chevrolet C20- Rusty- the puzzle box lid for the C10 | 1962 AMC Rambler American- my wife's
Parts trucks-
1951 GMC 9300 | 1951-GMC 9430 | 1951- Chevrolet 1300
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I used poplar over the winter to do my 46. It won't see any hauling or outside storage. Some pictures here Have fun and good luck
Dan

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I went to a local hardwood supply company for about 150 picked up enough oak to do my bed. The stain is what makes mine different.

https://flic.kr/p/twfP9C

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Great info!
Sort of related; my truck is missing bothe the wood and the metal strips. I can come up with wood, but is anyone aware of a decent substitute to use in place of the factory metal strips?. The truck is FAR from original, and I would like it to be somewhat functional. TIA
Mike


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For decent functionality on the cheap, get tongue in groove wood, bolt them down every so often to the cross supports, and you should be good to go. The metal strips are available through most of our vendors. You can get them in regular mild steel, even stainless. The regular ones arent that expensive, but most lumber yards carry tongue in groove lumber. Good luck!


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But Deve, The boards in the bed are different widths and the T&G are all the same. So either the seams in the boards are going to be exposed and/or the metal strips will be running down the middle of a board or you'll have a bolt close to the edge of a board.
For a functional easy fix just get 2 4x8x3/4" sheets of T&G plywood decking then you can at least drill and use the original bolt hole spacing with no metal strips needed.
To 'preserve' the plywood in my ToyGMC short bed I mixed up a gallon of 2 parts used motor oil, 2 parts deck oil and 1 part wood stain. Coated all sides and let it soak in over night then recoated everything. Works great! but this is my garbage hauler...
Though a table saw and router is all you need to make the proper boards out of what ever species one chooses.


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The cross sills are going to keep them all nice and tidy. But sure, I am also a woodworker so absolutely go with sheet stock. Its cheaper for sure. And, your concoction will make sure the wood stays firm for years. It really all depends on what you want it to look like when you are done. These days, its back to original, or not at all for me, but others arent as picky.. there are two great solutions here for you!


Deve

1950 Chevy 3100 Deluxe Cab
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Maybe I try to discourage some from trying to make half a donkey out of their project and at the same time get them to start thinking about something closer to Original or at least more 'professional'... The 'slap some paint on it' just seems so.... 80's.

I use the Yota example only cause the 56 GMC bed on an 88 Toy IS Original... thumbs_up so right there "Original" is what 'I' say it is. drive
In this case a Black Epoxy primer is the original paint.

My 58 GMC 1/2 ton on the other hand...


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Well, Caso, they never ask "Deve, what would YOU do?". Of course if they had, it would be using the proper metal strips and wood to restore the truck to its original or better glory. A younger, less experienced me would do the suggestions above. In the end, the metal strips and original type bedwood will be back if the truck lasts long enough.


Deve

1950 Chevy 3100 Deluxe Cab
1950 Chevy 3100 Standard Cab
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blush I personally feel if the truck made it this far it deserves a quality restoration, to original or with a make over I don't care. Just no 'Lipstick but no eye shadow and what ever it is those cover girls wear' jobs...and yes that "80's" crack was at my own expense/experience. not me


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