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Another should-have-tagged-these items when I took apart the truck. Don't think a picture would add much to describe these. Two steel items 1/4" thick by 1 1/4" x 2 1/2". There are 2 7/17 holes on 7/8" centers. Been trying to match them up but not found anything that matches yet. And this is on my '40 Chev 1/2 ton with 235 engine.

Dennis

A picture IS worth a 1000 words. If 2 7/17 is a fraction. There is no such fraction.

My bad. Each has two 7/16" holes. Do they maybe go between the bell housing and the stomp pedal mounts? The holes line up there and there is a place on each side. Holes are wider than the bolts though.

Dennis

Flywheel bolt plates/washers? Does it look like a bolt or a cotter pin went through the holes? Idler/emergency brake linkage?

Just thinking points...

Brad

I have no idea myself, like I said, a picture or a detailed description mat be necessary for those who have that era truck. Bracket? shape? Flat? rectangle with no radius corners? I guess when you are missing something you will know it.

OK, I'll snap a picture tomorrow. They are flat steel plate with a slight bend on the edge of one of the long sides.

Dennis

That's better! I can visualize it now. But I don't know that era.
The pic will do the trick for the experts.

Shims under the radiator????
Dan

That would b my guess too Chev4t6.

Could they be used with U-bolts and nuts?

Not with u-bolts Wally. I was on ebay and noticed they looked like what is shown (there).

The seller says they go on the bolt nearest engine and only 1 of the 2 holes are used. Geez, I still don't remember taking them off.

Dennis

Those are the rear cab mounting bolts on at least the 41-46 and I think earlier too. The frontof the cab bolts rigid to the frame and behind the seat back the bolts springs and reinforcment plates are used to secure the rear of the cab to the frame. This is because the frame twists a lot.

Right on the bolts shown GW but I'm just referring to the 2 plates shown.

Dennis

Did you ever post the picture you said you were going to post????
dg

He posted an ebay link which is verboten in GTT and was removed. A photo of exactly the parts we're trying to identify would help for sure.

If it's the cab mounts is this what you are talking about? Top right and left?
Dan

Here are the pics:

pic 1

pic 2

Dennis

They appear to be shims of some sort. Nothing like them on my '38. Hopefully someone will know.

Thanks Tiny. I'll have to test more on how to post the tidy links. I just can't seem to get it right. But not right now - have more sanding to do

The reinforcement plates? I have a picture on photo bucket about in the middle. It appears I put the plates on the bottom. I used the second hole to bolt my seat belts to.

I didn't see the picture you referred to but these didn't come with my seat belts if that's what you mean Gene.

Dennis

Memory jogger>>>>>Shims/spacers for:, door latch, radiator, seat mounts, hood, body or bed mounts, shocks, springs, bumper, tail lights, tailgate/chains, steering column, hinges, sun visors, spare tire stuff, suspension, gas tank, exhaust, headlights, emblems, vents, linkage, dash component, wipers, window or windshield mechanism, horn ... look around for something on either side of truck with that hole pattern. Because there are two, could be left side, right side. Can't be that many places with a hole pattern like that. Unless they are from your lawn mower!
The sharp, stick up edge also leads me to think holding/clamping something down tight, like rubber, material or maybe metal. I don't know 40's trucks though. I know I have seen that piece on TF trucks I've had but can't remember and don't have any now. I keep thinking door latch/catch or tailgate catch? Barn door catch on Panels/Burbs? Lift gate catch? But there are no wear marks so probably not that category. The big holes, if they are for bolts, are for a major strength item. Clearance hole for TWO! 3/8 bolts.

I,ll try and shoot some pictures. One spring goes in the cab and one under the cab. These are behind the seat and gas tank. There are two holes and the plate with two holes is a reinforcement in that area.

I think there for the radiator mount on the front cross member
lower radiator bracket bolts to cross member, these shim it up or down. jbennett

They don't fit the radiator mount as the holes are only on 7/8" centers. Thanks in advance Gene for the pictures. Keep the ideas coming.

Dennis

Here are a couple of photos I remembered I took of my '46 Chevy the day the cab was removed. I do not know if the '40 hardware and assembly is the same. The cab is believed to have never been removed previously. Judging from the rust and wear on wood and rubber bushings that would seem to be the case. Why the two hole plate/washer was used as shown, at the front of the cab on each side, is unknown.
The mystery Steel plate with two holes?
Cab to Frame Hardware '46 Chevy Half Ton

Bingo. That looks like it 46Sparky. I can see the angled edge too. Looks like I can put this one to bed. I didn't consider it being on the bottom side of the frame. Thanks to all for nailing this one down.

Dennis

Shot a couple of photos. Last page of my photobucket at least when I open it up. Funny what you forget. The plate is a frame reinforcement. The springs go in the cab at the rear, behind the seat, and under the cab at the front of the gas tank. Have fun.

I'm not sure what you are working on but those same reinforcements are used on the bottom of the from cab mount bolts on '31-'35 (possibly '36 high cab). They are not on my '36 low cab. I believe the extra hole is offset to the rear. Why not one hole in the center????
Mike

Well if they are "reinforcements"/stiffeners, then the turn up (angled edge) is to stiffen the two hole plate? Much like steel angle is stiffer than flat plate. But why not just use angle? The two hole is weird? So it can shift from frame style to frame style to clear something? Or second hole is to clear a rivet head or other stick up? I like trying to figure out old stuff.

I suspect a part that has more than one use or for more than one truck model.

In all honesty, it does no good as a frame reinforcement. Zero, zilch, nada. So tend to agree with Wirth.

Maybe not needed but I'm going with putting it on. What else am I going to do with it? I'll bet I'm not the first that forgot where they went so didn't replace them. Since they were there from at least '40-'46 seems like GM thought they were necessary. Anyway these 2 have a home.

Dennnis

Now fellas, ya got this old coot's curiosity going again. Guess I'll have to crawl under the '37 to see if these doodads are there too. It sure seems odd these would be used as a frame stiffeners. Not saying they weren't or were, just don't know and wonder. If frame integrity was a consideration why would these be that small and cover only that section? Also, GW's photos indicate these were on the cab rear instead at cab front as shown in the photo link I provided. So, there appears to be factory assembly differences?

The second hole doesn't make sense either. I'll check to see if there is a rivet or bolt or anything else that cause a need.

Update:
The '37 doesn't have the two hole stiffner plate reinforcement.