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Sounds like a bonehead simple issue, but it has me a little concerned...how do you add brake fluid to the stock master cylinder reservoir on a 1 1/2 ton without slopping brake fluid on nicely restored floor parts? This is the first time I have had the floor together and had to think about this. Was there some type of brake fluid filler used back in the days master cylinders were put in such difficult locations? Do you all have some innovative modern solutions?
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| | | | | Joined: Nov 2005 Posts: 6,100 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Nov 2005 Posts: 6,100 | Hy Paul_WNC, I would use a funnel of the appropriate size and design. | | | | | Joined: Mar 2010 Posts: 10,296 Renaissance Man | | Renaissance Man Joined: Mar 2010 Posts: 10,296 | Cannot be avoided in my experience. Frustrating fact of life which I have accepted. Carl
1952 5-window - return to "as built" condition | 1950 3100 with a 235 and a T-5 transmission
| | | | | Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 3,596 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 3,596 | Denny,
That is a piece I wish I had in my collection of stuff! I actively continue to look for one but they are pretty rare. Last one I did engage in a bidding war for went for over $250. | | | | | Joined: Nov 2011 Posts: 1,611 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Nov 2011 Posts: 1,611 | Thanks gentlemen,
You would think that some aftermarket version of the Kent Moore tool would exist. I suppose we are too small of a market to attract product development. I was hoping there would be a filler tool similar to the old time oil buckets that had a trigger to start/stop oil flow.
In reality, it is not common to mess with the brake fluid reservoir once everything is dialed in, but it looks to be an aggravating process.
Maybe this is one of the reasons that original floor pans are so rusty as over the years they have gotten drenched by paint eating brake fluid.
The responses have given me some good innovation ideas though, thanks! | | | | | Joined: Jun 2001 Posts: 793 Bondo Artiste | | Bondo Artiste Joined: Jun 2001 Posts: 793 | As dumb as it may sound I just pull the floor mat, jute pad and pull the floor. No mess then and I can easily fill the master cylinder without spilling one drop. The 41-46 floors just unbolt too easy.
~ Phillip 1949 GMC Suburban - 10 year project 1952 Pontiac Chieftain Convertible straight 8 hydramatic 1945 GMC half ton truck - Driver- Sold 9-15-25 1946 Chevy COE - SOLD 1-5-26 BUH BYE CHEVY! 1959 GMC Half ton long bed NAPCO | | | | | Joined: Aug 2000 Posts: 1,438 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Aug 2000 Posts: 1,438 | Wouldn't be stock, but a remote reservoir might be a way around the problem.
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| | | | | Joined: Jan 2013 Posts: 1,384 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: Jan 2013 Posts: 1,384 | On the remote reservoirs, mounted up on the firewall it will add 2-3 feet of head pressure to the brake system. That would be translated to residual pressure in the wheel cylinders.
Has anyone used one and found any problems? | | | | | Joined: Jul 2010 Posts: 5 New Guy | | New Guy Joined: Jul 2010 Posts: 5 | Regarding the residual pressure a remote fluid reservoir would create: Don't worry about it. At a 3ft. head and the density of light hydraulic oil the reisdual pressure would be about 0.2 psi.
Glad the question was asked because I am planning to use one and never thought of that. I was just cocerned with the cover to the MS leaking. | | | | | Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 29,837 Kettle Custodian (pot stirrer) | | Kettle Custodian (pot stirrer) Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 29,837 | Anybody else remember the oldtime enema/personal hygeine water bags? The soft rubber tubing and pinch-type flow control clamp used with those things would be ideal for dispensing brake fluid in a controlled fashion- - - -just adapt the hose to the brake fluid can with a piece of copper tubing soldered into the top cap from an empty can. Retain the original cap to keep the air-tight seal between uses, or the fluid will draw moisture and ruin. Jerry
"It is better to be silent and be thought a fool than to speak and eliminate all doubt!" - Abraham Lincoln Cringe and wail in fear, Eloi- - - - -we Morlocks are on the hunt! There is nothing noble in being superior to your fellow man; true nobility is being superior to your former self. - Ernest Hemingway Love your enemies and drive 'em nuts!
| | | | | Joined: Feb 2002 Posts: 12,029 Cruising in the Passing Lane | | Cruising in the Passing Lane Joined: Feb 2002 Posts: 12,029 | good idea for filling any of our under-the-floor masters Jerry, and easy to find the tubing and flow controller, they're commonly used for siphoning over wine and beer
Bill | | | | | Joined: Nov 2011 Posts: 1,611 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Nov 2011 Posts: 1,611 | This topic seems to have gotten reborn.
Jerry and Bill, those sound like very decent applications. I am not familiar with either though, any links or pictures?
Paul | | | | | Joined: Feb 2002 Posts: 12,029 Cruising in the Passing Lane | | Cruising in the Passing Lane Joined: Feb 2002 Posts: 12,029 | Paul, simple plastic clamp like this [50¢- $1] slipped on appropriate size clear plastic tubing, squeezing the clamp causes it to lock shut, crimping the tubing to stop the flow, very common in the home brew field Bill | | | | | Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 29,837 Kettle Custodian (pot stirrer) | | Kettle Custodian (pot stirrer) Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 29,837 | I am not familiar with either though, any links or pictures? Ask any of the ladies in your family older than 40- - - -they probably have one stashed away somewhere. http://witchesbrewpress.files.wordpress.com/2010/01/douchebag1.jpg#douche%20bagJerry
"It is better to be silent and be thought a fool than to speak and eliminate all doubt!" - Abraham Lincoln Cringe and wail in fear, Eloi- - - - -we Morlocks are on the hunt! There is nothing noble in being superior to your fellow man; true nobility is being superior to your former self. - Ernest Hemingway Love your enemies and drive 'em nuts!
| | | | | Joined: Nov 2011 Posts: 1,611 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Nov 2011 Posts: 1,611 | Ask any of the ladies in your family older than 40- - - -they probably have one stashed away somewhere.
Jerry Jerry you about made me choke on my lunch. I am thinking I will look for new equipment if I elect to go that route. Never can tell what you may learn on this site. Bill, thanks. I will check out our homebrew shop. Paul | | | | | Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 29,837 Kettle Custodian (pot stirrer) | | Kettle Custodian (pot stirrer) Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 29,837 | Never can tell what you may learn on this site That's why my original reply mentioned "personal hygiene"- - - -sort of a diplomatic way of suggesting the hose and shutoff clamp, not the whole thing! I have made use of similar equipment, rubber bag and all, as a battery filler around the shop. The comments from the lady customers were priceless! Jerry
"It is better to be silent and be thought a fool than to speak and eliminate all doubt!" - Abraham Lincoln Cringe and wail in fear, Eloi- - - - -we Morlocks are on the hunt! There is nothing noble in being superior to your fellow man; true nobility is being superior to your former self. - Ernest Hemingway Love your enemies and drive 'em nuts!
| | | | | Joined: Nov 2011 Posts: 1,611 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Nov 2011 Posts: 1,611 | I cant wait to go to the drugstore, just imagine "personal hygiene assistance needed in aisle 3". I am already laughing now, I don't know if I can contain myself at the store. Always entertaining.
Paul | | | | | Joined: Feb 2008 Posts: 1,123 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Feb 2008 Posts: 1,123 | Just a thought, but since the floor board is floor mat covered anyway, could a larger access hole be cut in the floor board? It hole could be covered with a thin metal plate and held in place with sheet metal screws or if wanted a few nuts and bolts. The nuts could be tack welded to the bottom of the floor board. I imagine something similar to the battery access cover used on 30's and 40'strucks could work too. Seems to me it could be less hassle in the long term than having to carry a douch bag in the old tool box? 
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| | | | | Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 29,837 Kettle Custodian (pot stirrer) | | Kettle Custodian (pot stirrer) Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 29,837 | With a good brake system, topping off the brake fluid should be an annual event at most. I usually checked fluid at every oil change back when I had an under-floor MC on some of the vehicles I drove in the 1960's, and it was very seldom I had to add any unless a wheel cylinder started leaking. Jerry
"It is better to be silent and be thought a fool than to speak and eliminate all doubt!" - Abraham Lincoln Cringe and wail in fear, Eloi- - - - -we Morlocks are on the hunt! There is nothing noble in being superior to your fellow man; true nobility is being superior to your former self. - Ernest Hemingway Love your enemies and drive 'em nuts!
| | | | | Joined: Aug 2004 Posts: 1,418 ODSS Lawman | | ODSS Lawman Joined: Aug 2004 Posts: 1,418 | Wow, this topic sure is dancing close to a fine line but Jerry has done a great job keeping it on point, (though I will admit to a few chuckles myself).
Sparky46, I agree with Jerry. Once you have completed the task of filling the MC, the job should be complete. If you have to constantly check the MC for fluid loss, you have another issue that needs to be addressed.
SWEET Sergeant At Arms: Old Dominion Stovebolt Society BUNS?!?!?!Where we're going, we don't need no buns.....1950 GMC 450 1951 Chevy 1/2-TonThe GreenMachineIn the Stovebolt Gallery | | | | | Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 29,837 Kettle Custodian (pot stirrer) | | Kettle Custodian (pot stirrer) Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 29,837 | Sweet, 10K+ posts have done a pretty good job of teaching me what the PC Patrol will tolerate, which seems to vary according to who's moderating. I can live with it, I guess! Jerry
"It is better to be silent and be thought a fool than to speak and eliminate all doubt!" - Abraham Lincoln Cringe and wail in fear, Eloi- - - - -we Morlocks are on the hunt! There is nothing noble in being superior to your fellow man; true nobility is being superior to your former self. - Ernest Hemingway Love your enemies and drive 'em nuts!
| | | | | Joined: Aug 2004 Posts: 1,418 ODSS Lawman | | ODSS Lawman Joined: Aug 2004 Posts: 1,418 | That is true, I'll admit I watched this a little closer to make sure it stayed on task. Thanks for all your good advice Jerry. Having someone with as much experience as you on this site helps to solve many pesky issues.
SWEET Sergeant At Arms: Old Dominion Stovebolt Society BUNS?!?!?!Where we're going, we don't need no buns.....1950 GMC 450 1951 Chevy 1/2-TonThe GreenMachineIn the Stovebolt Gallery | | | | | Joined: Nov 2014 Posts: 623 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Nov 2014 Posts: 623 | Has anybody used a flexible necked 'pump' type oil can for this? (Sort of like the tin man used in the wizard of oz). I need to get in there and check mine, and saw the old Moore type, and was hoping to come across one of those, but it looks like that won't be an option. I figure it would take a lot of squirts to fill it, but for just a top off, it seems like it might work with a long necked oil can. ???
"When I rest, I rust" 1951 3100 5 window w/ '56 235
| | | | | Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 29,837 Kettle Custodian (pot stirrer) | | Kettle Custodian (pot stirrer) Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 29,837 | Just be sure the pump can is brand new and has NEVER had petroleum-based oil in it, or flush it repeatedly with alcohol before putting brake fluid into it. NEVER, EVER ALLOW PETROLEUM TO GET INTO A BRAKE SYSTEM, EVEN A TINY BIT!
Rant mode off- - - - -even a slight bit of oil in a brake system will contaminate the fluid and damage all the rubber parts. I've actually advised a customer to junk her car rather than go to the expense of rebuilding a brake system after someone put power steering fluid into the master cylinder. The lady's boyfriend was an alcoholic, and he just HAD to get to the liquor store for another bottle. No brake fluid handy, so he used PS fluid! The car wasn't worth the cost of replacing all the rubber parts in the brake system! Jerry
"It is better to be silent and be thought a fool than to speak and eliminate all doubt!" - Abraham Lincoln Cringe and wail in fear, Eloi- - - - -we Morlocks are on the hunt! There is nothing noble in being superior to your fellow man; true nobility is being superior to your former self. - Ernest Hemingway Love your enemies and drive 'em nuts!
| | | | | Joined: Jun 2010 Posts: 20 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Jun 2010 Posts: 20 | Let's not forget, neat and clean were not issues 70 years ago. A funnel and a rag is your best bet. A small turkey baster isn't such a bad idea. "You didn't hear it from me." lol | | | | | Joined: Jul 2014 Posts: 362 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Jul 2014 Posts: 362 | I used a little refillable condiment squeeze bottle with the pointed nozzle to squirt brake fluid into my under floor master. Something like this: [img] https://i5.walmartimages.com/asr/00...h=612&odnHeight=612&odnBg=ffffff[/img]
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| | | | | Joined: Jun 2011 Posts: 5,096 Crusing in the Passing Lane | | Crusing in the Passing Lane Joined: Jun 2011 Posts: 5,096 | The trouble with a turkey baster is brake fluid fumes have deteriorated the rubber squeeze bulb on mike.
Ed
'37 GMC T-18 w/ DD 4-53T, RTO-610, 6231 aux., '95 GMC running gear, full disc brakes, power steering, 22.5 wheels and tires. '47 GMC 1 ton w/ 302, NP-540, 4wd, full width Blazer front axle. '54 GMC 630 w/ 503 gasser, 5 speed, ex fire truck, shortened WB 4', install 8' bed. '55 GMC 370 w/270, 420 4 speed, grain, dump bed truck from ND. Works OK.
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