Originally Posted by C10 - C90 Bill
cfesting,

I'm curious to what the Air Brake Restriction would be, in your research, for regular truck use?

Bill

No biggie! All the Air Brake Restriction says is "I won't drive a vehicle with Air Brakes". Let's say you are driving a little E350 for some company that carries haz-mat like an oxygen home health care outfit. You need a CDL for haz-mat no matter what. So, you get a class C CDL with an H endorsement and an "X" (forgot what the letter really is) letter that is also listed with the endorsements - while H says "yes" to Haz mat (and P says "yes" for passenger bus, etc) the X says "no" to air brakes.



Originally Posted by tclederman
Originally Posted by Grigg
In VA they want you to have a CDL if you have air brakes... say your car had air brakes, irregardless of weight you'd need a CDL to drive it.
Otherwise it's 26,000 lb before needing a CDL in VA.

Grigg


Grigg's statement is for the most part how it works in NY. This is why I looked for a GMC 350 COE (no air brakes - I do not think the hydrovac air-assist counts).


Vehicles Requiring Commercial Driver’s Licenses

Drivers must hold CDLs if they operate in interstate, intrastate, or foreign commerce and drive a vehicle:

* With a Gross Vehicle Weight Rating (GVWR) or Gross Vehicle Weight (GVW) of at least 26,001 pounds, whichever is greater, or a lesser GVWR or GVW the Secretary of Transportation prescribes by regulation, but not less than a GVWR of 10,001 pounds; or
* Designed to transport at least 16 passengers including the driver; or
* Transporting a quantity of hazardous materials requiring placarding.

Air brake restrictions

If an applicant fails the air brake section of the knowledge test, or performs the skills test in a vehicle not equipped with air brakes, his/her CDL, if issued, will indicate that the license holder may not operate any CMV equipped with air brakes. Note: For the purposes of the skills test and the license restriction, air brakes include any braking system that operates fully or partially on the air brake principle.

https://www.nysdot.gov/divisions/operating/osss/truck/driver

I dunno, tclederman, read that all again. That last sentence makes me think that air assist IS an air brake vehicle in the eyes of the law. If a GMC 350 COE is under 26K# and was a true hydrolic (and you aren't calling it a recreational vehicle) then you would not need a CDL.

Most of this all became "federalized" sometime in the late 80s (?) when the chauffer license went away.

I apologize if I misread or misunderstood a question - must admit I am multitasking.


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