Wow, let me jump in on this one. My pet peeve is the shops here run them so tight that King Kong himself would have a problem. I've twisted many GOOD 4 way lug wrenches loosening them as soon as I get home. Some shops run them up so tight there is no need to torque them but they put that little ole torque wrench on there knowing good and well it will click. Why not when they run 175PSI on the guns. First I know there is good reason to re-torque aluminum and other wheels but for plain steel wheels, regular cars and pickups, I have used 90PSI on lug nuts for well over 25 years and never had one to come loose. I also found that at that torque my youngest daughter can get them loose if she has to be the one to change a tire. I do NOT know what 90 PSI is in torque lbs but it works for me. Now, lets hear why this isn't suppose to work :p but does!!