MARTINSR speaks the truth, I have a buddy(known him 30 yrs) who is a bodyman & paints, does great work if he will ever do anything. Takes years to get him to do anything if he does it at all,I guess its the paint fumes. Most folks get tired of waiting & take their stuff back home & find someone else. He cries all the time about "not having enough money to pay bills"(single income fam) yet won't do what he is trained & can do. Brian