The Stovebolt Site Forums The Parking Lot Panels 'N Burbs Suburban & panel tire carrier differences

I've noticed in a couple pics that have been posted what appears to be a drain hole next to the lower striker for the rear barn doors. My truck doesn't have one so I'm wondering if they were added to allow any water that might leak or seep around the weather strips to drain out. Seems logical that is what it's for. But it also seems that it would let water get in when driving in the rain.

Any other panel owners input would be appreciated. I figure I will not put one in mine for now, but if I find water pooling there, I might drill it later.

Your thoughts/experience would be appreciated.

My panel has three hole as well. BUT a friend near by has a 1/2 panel and his does not. The bottom "catch" that bolts in this area is an "odd" shape but I can't, or haven't figured out just way yet. I am at the point of putting them on but have a couple things ahead of it. I'm wondering if perhaps on some panels there was a different kind of "catch".

It is interesting. Here is a pic of MY catch in place and you can see the other hole is probably the one your talking about.

http://i140.photobucket.com/albums/r19/LutherParris/52Panel/000_0201.jpg

This is a picture of my FRIENDS bottom catch. You can't see a 3rd hole on his unless its full of dirt and I wasn't checking for the hole when this pic was taken. I only wanted to know what kind of catch it was suppose to be.

http://i140.photobucket.com/albums/r19/LutherParris/52Panel/RearBottomlatch.jpg

Personally, I don't think its a drain hole.

Hmm.. the extra holes I've seen are to the right of the catch. I've seen two that are both that way, but yours if the first I've seen like that. I wonder if that was a fix dealers did back when to take care of water that collected in that area?

Oh.. and so far.. all the catches I've seen are the same.. on both Chevy and GMC.

Alvin,

Here is a pic from jos48panel. The link below is to a pic in his photobucket gallery and is the same as the others I have seen.

here is one

I guess that's possible... but my spare tire hanger is only attached to the frame and is farther forward, just behind the differential. Here is some pics.. look at the last two or three Pictures that show the spare tire hanger from underneath.
pictures

What year is yours?

Ned, maybe there is something because yours is bigger?
Joe, I have a complete spare tire system sitting outside my door for the 1/2 ton but don't see anything there or in the assembly manual.....but that don't mean I have not missed anything as mine was stripped pretty dang good when I got it.

Ned, that big hole....looks to be sunken in and almost a factory or nice job by someone. Maybe we'll get it figured out?

The other pic I saw was from a guy in Cali that I bought some parts from. His is a 1 ton as well and his has the hole like in the pic. So maybe there were different options for spare tire carriers?

I think the hole The Ned's sill is man made and not from the factory. The factory hole for the 1948/50 spare tire carrier was to the right of the catch and it had a funnel shape to it. The t-bolt attached there.

I may have caused some confusion. But in my sill there is no hole and the hole in the pic I posted was from jos48panel which is a larger funnel shape as GMONIZ described.

So apparently the earlier models did have a different tire carrier.

Thanks all for the clarification.

Previous topic discussion

Unfortunately no pictures.

Thanks again.. I was more curious than anything and was not fortunate enough to find the thread provided in my search.

...so the search is on for a pic of an original
Gosh, we learn soooo much here on the bolt and that allows us to educate the younger generation. Some has to do it!!

Thanks guys. Even "I" am still able to learn something new!!!

Alvin,

In the post Gimonz provided, I think Denny said there were illustrations in the assembly manual. Mine is at the resto shop, so I can't check. Perhaps if you have one, you can find it there?

I've got the assembly manual out in the shop. I did not see it before but I was not "looking for it" specifically. I will now!

The Factory Assembly Manual might not help much. It has diagrams for 54/55-1st (Section 10 - sheets 2.00-2.05).

For all 3100s, the wheel carrier was basically the same - the bolt goes up through a cross-brace between the frame side-rails (and, I have no hole in "rear sill" in the 3106 Suburban).

The 3600 is different (Denny's model of interest).

Two different styles of wheel carriers are shown (for 54/55, at least) for 3800 styles of trucks. One style has a bolt that goes into cross-brace between the frame (the 3805 Panel & Canopy). Other 3800 models bolt to a frame side-rail.

I'm kinda surprised at all the interest this post has generated. Just goes to show.. take nothing for granted.

Am I hijacking this thread? Originally the question was asked what the extra hole was for and then the spare tire carrier got included in the thread. If this is inappropriate for this thread I will start another one. .......g

Denny sent me this information:

This is the ‘51 and later style carrier: http://www.pbase.com/dennygraham/image/121820558 (1/2 ton?)

I thought that I should open this up for discussion again and revise the information if needed, This was being discussed on another post and I thought it would be more appropriate here.

Okay I culled some old posts and found some more information on the tire carriers.

This one is from a 1951 Suburban same as panel.

This is how it would look mounted under a pickup or suburban/panel.

Some information on 1941 - 1950 carriers

Here are a couple of photos of the rear door sill with the tube to access the tire carrier. These are from oldblue51's album. I have bought this part from him. To be absolutely correct I should have the one without the hole/tube for my '51 burb, but this is what I could find.

underside of rear sill

Top of sill

Oldblue51 is where I got the info about this hole being used to access the tire carrier.

Kurt

Yes, you have the one for the 1947/1950 panel or suburban. Now it's your choice to use either carrier with the proper hardware. If you decide to use the later carrier, you can block this hole.

THANKS FOR POSTING THE PICTURES, THEY WILL HELP OTHERS.

Thank you every one for the picyures, I originally thought the cylinder might have been somewhat like today's cable tire crank style. I believe I will try to use todays spare tire cable crank and utilize this cylinder tube as the fixture. Some things I'm not bringing back to original. I would like your opinion if you think I am on a good path?

Here is what is under my 52 panel. I have the correct carrier so I do not "need" the hole.
Just for info here's the underside of my 52.

http://i140.photobucket.com/albums/r19/LutherParris/52Panel/000_0206.jpg

Would a 1957 3800 panel use a similar style mount, that is, one mounted diagonally?