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#997470 01/07/2014 4:32 AM
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What all should I replace on an early 50s rearend? I know things like pinion seals, wheel bearings, and brakes but how far down do I go? Do the bearings clear down in the differential get replaced? the pinion bearings? I am new at this so please explain when you answer. Thanks.

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Hy zinkschevy, you won't know for sure what needs to be replaced until you dis-assemble, clean and inspect everything. Check before dis-assembling to see if there is any clearance in the bearings, there should be none, the bearings should have a slight preload to them, both on the pinion and the ring gear. Any play could indicate worn bearings to the point that they require replacement. If when you have everything dis-assembled and cleaned you posted pictures, we could look at the bearings and give our opinions on their serviceability. Most overhaul books have pictures of bearing wear that you can compare with, hope that helps.

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If you are tearing it down, just replace all the bearings since you are in there. Especially if you don't know the history of the rear end. Unless bearings are somehow expensive for the old rearends, there is more cost in the labor, and if you are planning to dissassemble, just replace during assembly, there is no extra effort, just some marginal cost. Then you know what you have and you have new parts for your normal wear items.

I don't know about the older ones, but on more popular rear ends they will sell a rebuild kit that basically has everything you need in it. Pinion bearings, crush sleeves, carrier and wheel bearings, bearing races, gaskets, even the marking compound to check the gear wear faces.


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Don't know exactly which rear end you have but here is a 1956 filmstrip that describes how to tear down, inspect and rebuild one type.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/advance-design_parts_co/9974528904/in/set-72157635962833275

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First drive the truck & listen for noises like whining or growling. Then pull the cover & like 3B says check for play in the bearings. If everything looks good redo the brakes, wheel cylinders & wheel grease seals. Inspect the axle shafts where the brgs ride on. There should be no pits in them. If it is a closed drive shaft there is no pinion seal. You don't want to go further then you have to. Setting up the rear end is a tedious job & if not done right will cause trouble.


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Wrenchbender gave you better advice than I did. Don't tear it down if you don't have to, especially if you don't have the means to reassemble, with pinion bearing pre-load and gear lash you need special tools and more than NAPA know-how.


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Well the truck doesn't run and I already tore down so I think we can dimiss driving and hearing sounds.

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zinkschevy,

Are your referring to a pre-1954 1/2 ton enclosed drive-shaft rear end?

If so, since you have already disassembled the rear-end, you might want to considered the option of changing to 3.55 Ring & Pinion gears (about $250 from Mothertrucker, including shipping, I think).

Patrick's also sells that gear-set and he separately sells an installation kit of bearings/bushings/seals. That installation kit might be of interest to you, no matter what you do with your torque-tube rear-end.

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I have found that these rearends will let you know if something is wrong when you drive them, like noises and leaks. I know you already took it apart, but there are other readers who could benefit from the advice to run it first before you tear it down. I would also advise others to drain and refill the lube before testing it. Zink, you're already neck deep in it, go for it!
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A quick call to quick performance wouldnt hurt unless you want to keep stock. Talk with Brydon. He is amazing with building a rear to suit you. I got this for my 1958 chevy 1/2

$680 - 9" Housing/Axle Package (58 Chevy Truck - Leaf Spring - Custom)
- New Axles, Axle Bearings, Wheel Studs, & Retainers
- 31 Spline, Choice of Bolt Pattern, 1/2" Studs
$820 - Center Section (Assembled)
- New 31 Spline Trac-Lock Posi
- New Motive Performance Gears (Choice of Ratio)
- New Timken USA Bearings
Disc brakes -Wilwood
Taxes in I was in for about 1800.00-2000.00. His perchs are spot on. Bolted right in with a 1330 series yoke.
Not saying do this but its a good option for you. Sure beats a 4000.00 12 bolt gm Moser rear


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