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#997058 01/05/2014 6:39 PM
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Needing some advise on re-installing the door glass in my 58 Apache. Got new glass and rubber/cloth strips from Classic Parts. Vent windows went fine, although very snug. Started on the larger door glass and find that the glass with sealing strip around it fits sorta lose in the channels. Also not enough of the material to do the bottom bracket that screws to the frame. These bottom channels are even a little wider. Looks like the vent glass strip would fit better there.. I found pictures and youtube stuff for vent rebuilding but not on the bigger door glass. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks.

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need to explain better ....
what "sealing strip" around the glass?
what material are you using to "do the bottom bracket"?
is that bottom bracket the lower sash that attaches to the mechanism?
what are the "bottom channels?
have you consulted a shop manual, section 1?

the glass has a metal frame attached to the glass with a "rubber filler", that fits snug in the door channels, which are lined with a felt channel - there is a rubber seal that fits the glass into the lower sash to make up the assembly ... maybe you're missing something or aren't using the parts in the right place?

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rrenner #997107 01/05/2014 9:56 PM
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Thanks for the help. The sealing strip I am talking about is from Classic parts of America item 70-717. Seems to be the right type of stuff, just not thick enough? The shop manual says .031 or .046. My material is 1/32 or .031. American classic truck parts offers glass setting tape, but doesn't give the thickness. The bottom bracket I reference is the lower sash, thought it would use the same setting tape as the rest of the channel, did not realize its a separate piece. I have the felt lined channels that the finished window rides up and down in, am now trying to get the new raw glass installed back into the frames. Looks like I may need to find something thicker?

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70-717 is glass setting tape not "sealing strip". You are getting your terms confused as Bill is suggesting. I have found that tape to be too thin also. New glass is thinner than original glass. orig is .250 and new glass is .234. Not much diff but .008 per side does make a difference in this case. Measure the glass and measure the frame channel, divide by 2 and see about what thickness tape you need. I think I remember I went to SoCal and got .045. The window is held on three sides with the tape. Take off the bottom piece (sash). Real small flat head screws. That piece has a rubber piece 73-713 to be installed into it and then sash with rubber is installed after tape/glass is installed into frame. You need to study the whole door/window assembly and learn how they are installed before continuing. Bill has provided great help and I apologize for repeating some of it.


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you should be able to get various thickness glass setting tape from a local auto glass shop .... or you could use black silicone, which works fine, lightly fill the metal channel, push the glass into it, trim the ooze after it's set up well

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