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on the Internet for over 30 years! and not clogged down with Ads! Again, thanks! | | | | Joined: Jul 2008 Posts: 1,262 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: Jul 2008 Posts: 1,262 | Dads50 (why do these handles remind me of my awkward CB radio days?)...... Awkward? So what was your "handle"? | | | | | Joined: Jan 2010 Posts: 4,263 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: Jan 2010 Posts: 4,263 | Tim's (tclederman) site is a great resource http://www.1954advance-design.com/I have it bookmarked for quick reference. | | | | | Joined: Sep 2008 Posts: 872 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: Sep 2008 Posts: 872 | The PCV orifice diameter is the key part you need to look after. To small and it never sucks out enough condensation, to large and it affects performance (you really are simply creating a vacuum leak after the carb).
I'm sure 'close' is good enough. But most of my manuals that deal with trucks that come with and without PCV included the PCV orifice as a source of poor idle/performance.
If your motor is blowing by that bad, fix it. | | | | | Joined: Aug 2012 Posts: 1,214 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: Aug 2012 Posts: 1,214 | The PCV orifice diameter is the key part you need to look after. To small and it never sucks out enough condensation, to large and it affects performance (you really are simply creating a vacuum leak after the carb). Agree, as I previously stated here. I'm sure 'close' is good enough. But most of my manuals that deal with trucks that come with and without PCV included the PCV orifice as a source of poor idle/performance. Agree again. But, theres no factory spec for a PCV on a 49 216 as it wasn't even an option at the time. Close enough will more than likely be good enough in this case.If your motor is blowing by that bad, fix it. The blowby is decreaseing w/useage and it's running to good to tear down at this point and I'm not inclined to take it off-line for rebuild. Moving the PCV out further from the block and mounting it in the draft tube seems to have just about eliminated the manifold oil sucking problem. It hasn't totally eliminated the condensation in the valve cover and I'm still working on that | | | | | Joined: Sep 2008 Posts: 872 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: Sep 2008 Posts: 872 | This photo: http://s142.photobucket.com/user/551stsuburban/media/1955%201st%206400/005_zps3d5a38e6.jpg.htmlShows the PCV valve just after the brass 90deg fitting. Of all the bits and pieces I have when I bought my truck motors I have a draft tube and air cleaner with PCV fittings. I did read this from the 57 Truck manual in the specifications page: CRANKCASE VENTILATION Positive crankcase ventilation on forward control models... vacuum operated closed outlet tube from ventilator body to inlet manifold provides suction when engine is running. Road draft ventilation on all others. | | | | | Joined: Sep 2011 Posts: 1,451 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Sep 2011 Posts: 1,451 | Looks good but where is it drawing air into the crankcase? Need a vented cap unless there is a clean air source I don't see.
BC 1960 Chevy C10 driver 261 T5 4.10 dana 44 power loc 1949 GMC 250 project in waiting 1960 C60 pasture art Retired GM dealer tech. 1980 - 2022 | | | | | Joined: Aug 2012 Posts: 1,214 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: Aug 2012 Posts: 1,214 | Update. Heres a pic of the PCV mounted in the road draft tube. It is still a temp setup so don't mind my little rigged up strap to hold the PCV into the grommet. I figure the gorilla glue will eventually let loose and when it does I have a 30.08mm freeze plug that I will drive into the road draft tube w/a proper grommet that will hold the PCV. Until then this works  I went w/a PV1053 PCV is is the straight eqivilent to the 90 degree angled PV 141. The straight PCV lined up better. The larger PCV that I tried and didn't work was the PV233. It is all metal and also straight but came w/a 90 degree adaptor. IT would stay in the glued in grommet without my rigged up strap but unfortunately is too large and draws too much vaccum which negatively effected the vaccum windshield wipers. Dave | | | | | Joined: Sep 2008 Posts: 872 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: Sep 2008 Posts: 872 | You need to have the proper air cleaner with the PCV hose connection. Its just in the manual that only COE's had PCV setups... regular cabs still used the draft tube.
For some reason its really hard to find a picture of an original COE w/motor... but I really didn't put much effort into it. | | | | | Joined: Nov 2006 Posts: 2,544 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: Nov 2006 Posts: 2,544 | My 53 6400 firetruck has a PCV valve on it. The truck is origial with 11,000 miles on it. I got it from the original owner/department. It is not a COE. I can take pictures this weekend if anyone is interested in seeing the setup- | | | | | Joined: Sep 2008 Posts: 872 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: Sep 2008 Posts: 872 | http://chevy.oldcarmanualproject.com/parts/1929_54/134.htmList 'Ventilator unit - positive ventilation' and it says it comes with instructions... perhaps a dealer option? I'm gonna guess that 'positive ventilation' is what we are calling the PCV setup? Pics of old trucks are always welcome! | | | | | Joined: Sep 2001 Posts: 29,269 Bubba - Curmudgeon | | Bubba - Curmudgeon Joined: Sep 2001 Posts: 29,269 | You need to have the proper air cleaner with the PCV hose connection. Its just in the manual that only COE's had PCV setups... regular cabs still used the draft tube.
For some reason its really hard to find a picture of an original COE w/motor... but I really didn't put much effort into it. What year (or, years) are you referring to "only COEs had PCV setups"? | | | | | Joined: Sep 2009 Posts: 296 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Sep 2009 Posts: 296 | Resurrecting an old thread...
Does anyone know what the part number is for the factory PCV Valve? I have the 261 with the PCV setup that plumbs over the top of the valve cover to the intake manifold.
-Patrick 1953 Chevrolet 3100 261 / 4-speed / 4:11 / Commercial Red
| | | | | Joined: Sep 2001 Posts: 29,269 Bubba - Curmudgeon | | Bubba - Curmudgeon Joined: Sep 2001 Posts: 29,269 | ...Does anyone know what the part number is for the factory PCV Valve? I have the 261 with the PCV setup that plumbs over the top of the valve cover to the intake manifold. What year? 1948-1957 is shown here. | | | | | Joined: Sep 2009 Posts: 296 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Sep 2009 Posts: 296 | My 261 is a 1955-1958 model. I have the tube and the line that runs over the top of the valve cover and fits into the fitting on the intake manifold. All fits well, but the PCV valve is stuck and not able to be fixed.
-Patrick 1953 Chevrolet 3100 261 / 4-speed / 4:11 / Commercial Red
| | | | | Joined: Jul 2000 Posts: 2,187 Insomniac | | Insomniac Joined: Jul 2000 Posts: 2,187 | This old thread has some part nos: PCV Valve
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