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#98893 01/17/2007 4:54 PM | Joined: Jul 2006 Posts: 9 Junior Member | Junior Member Joined: Jul 2006 Posts: 9 | I read the one post but hope someone has a simple technique to use hand held starter on my '59 with a foot switch. I don't have anyone to sit in the truck. Any ideas please let me know. thanks..........jeff | | |
#98894 01/17/2007 5:23 PM | Joined: Jul 2004 Posts: 5,708 'Bolter | 'Bolter Joined: Jul 2004 Posts: 5,708 | a19593200, Not sure I understand the question, but with a foot activated starter, there is no solenoid to pull the Bendix in, so manpower (foot power) is the ONLY way..a remote starter switch will not work. Stuart | | |
#98895 01/17/2007 5:27 PM | Joined: Feb 2002 Posts: 12,029 Cruising in the Passing Lane | Cruising in the Passing Lane Joined: Feb 2002 Posts: 12,029 | Jeff - if you're trying to tweak the position rather than start it, just put a bar between the starter button and the floor, and lever it down - I guess you could hold it to actually start the engine, but "think safety"!
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#98896 01/18/2007 1:24 PM | Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 9,671 'Bolter | 'Bolter Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 9,671 | Man, I wish you guys weren’t so shy and would use a real name so I didn’t have to address you as 4567854345 or @$%&*&^%$ or what all! I think your talking about the hand held pushbutton switches that the mechanics use to bump or crank the engine over while they are working under the hood. These are only made for engines with solenoids where it is activated by low voltage. This is a simply a switch that is connected across the low voltage of the solenoid just as you ignition switch is. In the case of a truck with no solenoid, you could mount a second foot switch in a box to be placed on the garage floor/ground to engage the starter but you would have to run some pretty hefty (read battery) cables leading to it. To handle the current, that’s the purpose of the solenoid. Denny Graham Sandwich, IL
Denny G Sandwich, IL
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#98897 01/18/2007 3:01 PM | Joined: Mar 2005 Posts: 1,513 'Bolter | 'Bolter Joined: Mar 2005 Posts: 1,513 | Use a broomstick wedged between the toeboard and bellhousing and push down on the starter switch.
Curt B.
1952 1300 Canadian 1/2 ton restomod You Tube | | |
#98898 01/18/2007 3:19 PM | Joined: Jun 2000 Posts: 454 Shop Shark | Shop Shark Joined: Jun 2000 Posts: 454 | Originally posted by I.B. Hoggin: Use a broomstick wedged between the toeboard and bellhousing and push down on the starter switch.
Curt B. Before using this technique, be sure to turn the key to the start position. Don't ask my why I bother to point out something so obvious 
Jeff Nelson
"Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy." - Benjamin Franklin "Always do right. This will gratify some people and astonish the rest." - Mark Twain
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#98899 01/18/2007 4:50 PM | Joined: Feb 2002 Posts: 12,029 Cruising in the Passing Lane | Cruising in the Passing Lane Joined: Feb 2002 Posts: 12,029 | Originally posted by Denny Graham: Man, I wish you guys weren't so shy and would use a real name so I didn't have to address you as 4567854345 or @$%&*&^%$ or what all! the post is signed with a "real name" Bill | | |
#98900 01/18/2007 4:56 PM | Joined: Jul 2004 Posts: 5,708 'Bolter | 'Bolter Joined: Jul 2004 Posts: 5,708 | Jeff Nelson,
I'm not sure I understand your post. Wouldn't the key switch in this rig have only OFF and ON, and wouldn't you want to make sure the switch was positioned in OFF. :confused:
EDIT. My assumption was that he is trying to JOG the engine without starting it.
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#98901 01/18/2007 5:30 PM | Joined: Mar 2005 Posts: 1,513 'Bolter | 'Bolter Joined: Mar 2005 Posts: 1,513 | More importantly be sure it's in neutral. Key on for spark testing and key off for valve adjustment.
Curt B.
1952 1300 Canadian 1/2 ton restomod You Tube | | |
#98902 01/18/2007 7:35 PM | Joined: Jun 2000 Posts: 454 Shop Shark | Shop Shark Joined: Jun 2000 Posts: 454 | Originally posted by atomarc: Jeff Nelson,
I'm not sure I understand your post. Wouldn't the key switch in this rig have only OFF and ON, and wouldn't you want to make sure the switch was positioned in OFF. :confused:
EDIT. My assumption was that he is trying to JOG the engine without starting it.
Stuart You're right, I should have said ON rather than START. I assumed since the post was about a remote starter he wanted to try to start the truck from under the hood. As Curt says, if you want to start the truck, the ign. switch is on, if you are just wanting to turn the engine over, the ign. switch is off. But in either position, be sure the truck is in neutral.
Jeff Nelson
"Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy." - Benjamin Franklin "Always do right. This will gratify some people and astonish the rest." - Mark Twain
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#98903 01/18/2007 9:02 PM | Joined: Jul 2004 Posts: 5,708 'Bolter | 'Bolter Joined: Jul 2004 Posts: 5,708 | I might be confused on this thread...it has happened before. The 'stomp' starter not only closes the starter switch, but mechanically engages the 'overunning clutch'. No electrical lashup will do this...the shift lever on the starter needs to be depressed by some mechanical means to drive the overunning clutch into the ring gear. Stuart | | |
#98904 01/18/2007 9:26 PM | Joined: Jun 2000 Posts: 454 Shop Shark | Shop Shark Joined: Jun 2000 Posts: 454 | Hence, the broomstick. 
Jeff Nelson
"Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy." - Benjamin Franklin "Always do right. This will gratify some people and astonish the rest." - Mark Twain
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#98905 01/18/2007 9:27 PM | Joined: Feb 2002 Posts: 12,029 Cruising in the Passing Lane | Cruising in the Passing Lane Joined: Feb 2002 Posts: 12,029 | you pretty much got it Stuart, and that's why I [and others] suggested using the bar on the button - works for me, "jogging" or starting - it's Denny that's a little confused ... or confusing Bill | | |
#98906 01/18/2007 10:12 PM | Joined: Jul 2004 Posts: 5,708 'Bolter | 'Bolter Joined: Jul 2004 Posts: 5,708 | Ahaaaa!..I guess my confusion was about whether folks were recommending 'broomsticking' the starter switch proper, or 'broomsticking' the shift lever, which would engage the drive gear AND close the starter switch. Stuart | | |
#98907 01/19/2007 5:16 AM | Joined: Jul 2005 Posts: 1,158 Shop Shark | Shop Shark Joined: Jul 2005 Posts: 1,158 | Originally posted by Jeff Nelson: Hence, the broomstick. I use a really big slotted screwdriver.  | | |
#98908 01/19/2007 4:03 PM | Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 9,671 'Bolter | 'Bolter Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 9,671 | Correct'o mundo, must not have had my thinking hat on guys. Funny how you get off on a tangent bout something (solenoids) and forget about the obvious lack of one. Broom stick sounds like the best option. Boy can I see a bunch of room for problems here, like a Advanced Design climbing the back wall of the garage!!! Denny Graham Sandwich, IL
Denny G Sandwich, IL
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#98909 01/19/2007 6:58 PM | Joined: Mar 2005 Posts: 1,029 Member | Member Joined: Mar 2005 Posts: 1,029 | Having a good parking brake and using it will help prevent such accidents. | | |
#98910 01/20/2007 11:55 AM | Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 469 Shop Shark | Shop Shark Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 469 | If your just wanting to bump the motor like for setting the points just put the truck in high gear with the key off and gently push the truck forward or backward to get the crank where you want it. This method works really well as most starter bumps are to little or to much | | |
#98911 01/22/2007 2:12 AM | Joined: Jan 2000 Posts: 2,074 'Bolter | 'Bolter Joined: Jan 2000 Posts: 2,074 | I've alway used the 'Johnson Bar' (Harbor Freight) cheapo GIANT screw drive, and pry down on the starter button. Also you can swap out that old floor starter for one with a solonoid, then you can use the hand held start button. | | |
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