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Mod | | Forums66 Topics126,777 Posts1,039,270 Members48,100 | Most Online2,175 Jul 21st, 2025 | | | Joined: Jan 2011 Posts: 159 Wrench Fetcher | Wrench Fetcher Joined: Jan 2011 Posts: 159 | Just ordered a new set, and was surprised that they did not fit. My C/L lens screw spacing is a bit over 2.75", but the replacements were only 2.5". Vendor says I have 1956-59 lights, which are different from 1954-55 1st series. It certainly is possible that the PO used a different assembly, but they sure look right.
Anybody ever run into this?
Last edited by harryr; 07/06/2013 9:17 PM.
| | | | Joined: May 2006 Posts: 8,351 'Bolter | 'Bolter Joined: May 2006 Posts: 8,351 | I have. I ran into the same problem with my '55 2nd, which had the same smaller lamps you have. The replacement lenses didn't fit. I ended up putting new lamps on, and changed from painted to stainless at the same time. I'm inclined to think in my case, the plant that built my truck (Baltimore) may have had an overstock of '54/'55 1rst tail lamps, and simply used them up before swapping to the proper '55 2nd assemblies. Other than the size, the lamps are virtually identical.
Bill Burmeister | | | | Joined: Feb 2002 Posts: 12,029 Cruising in the Passing Lane | Cruising in the Passing Lane Joined: Feb 2002 Posts: 12,029 | the light bodies don't look any different but there are a number of different lenses, see here [47-54] and here [56 up], compare the pictures for round lenses Bill | | | | Joined: Aug 2005 Posts: 6,383 Ex Hall Monitor | Ex Hall Monitor Joined: Aug 2005 Posts: 6,383 | FYI you'll get better (more) light through the lens with plastic lenses over glass.
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| | | | Joined: Sep 2001 Posts: 29,262 Bubba - Curmudgeon | Bubba - Curmudgeon Joined: Sep 2001 Posts: 29,262 | I think that the 54/55 Chevrolet pick-up truck tail-lamp lens was plastic.
I think the 54/55 panel body tail lamp lenses were glass (on the lamp on the panel/suburban rear door, and the canopy express door/end-gate, and the suburban end-gate).
I think the 1947-55 optional rear side-lamps ("bullets") had glass lenses.
As posted above, the diameter of the 1954-1955st and 1955nd pickup tail-lamp lens was different from the 1956 and later pickup tail-lamp lens diameter. But, I might be miss-reading the Master Parts Catalog regarding both the 1st and 2nd series 1955 having the same size lens as the 1954 lens?
| | | | Joined: Jan 2011 Posts: 159 Wrench Fetcher | Wrench Fetcher Joined: Jan 2011 Posts: 159 | Thanks, guys. Tim, does it show the centerline spacing of the screws? I think the overall OD is the same. But the hole spacing sure is different. Bill, I followed the links to the catalog, but the pix don't really identify the spacing. | | | | Joined: Feb 2002 Posts: 12,029 Cruising in the Passing Lane | Cruising in the Passing Lane Joined: Feb 2002 Posts: 12,029 | the spacing isn't specified, but every different lense had a different configuration for the screws, some were toward the top or bottom of the circle, some more toward the center, which is what results in the different hole spacing, the tabs for the screws are in different positions on the light cup
Bill | | | | Joined: Oct 2010 Posts: 1,232 'Bolter | 'Bolter Joined: Oct 2010 Posts: 1,232 | harryr - I bet that you are right ... some time in the past sixty years, a previous owner installed different tail lights. The right side tail light was an extra cost option in 1954, which may have prompted the change. The lens screws on my reproduction '54 tail lights are 2-9/16" center-to-center. The reproduction '54 lights look like the originals. > TOP: Original '54; BOTTOM: Reproduction '54I bought the reproduction '54 tail lights at the Truck Shop. '54 lights and '55(2nd) lights are shown on the same page. > The Truck Shop tail lightsThe plastic lenses on the '54 reproductions have the correct "GUIDE R-T8" at the bottom, "Guidex" in script at the top, and have ripples molded into the plastic. (Purpose unknown.) You can see it in the orignal/reproduction photo above and in the illustration in the 1954 Accessories Installation Manual. > 1954 Acc Inst ManThe reproduction '54 bezels are stainless. I painted mine black because the stainless bezels were only available on the delux 5-window cab. My 3104 is a standard 3-window. > Jim Carter tail light Tech TipFYI - Reproduction "GUIDE R-T8" lenses without the bucket or bezel are available ... > 1954 tail light lensLooking at photos, but no first hand knowledge -- the lens screws on the '55(2nd) lights appear to be closer to the edge of the lens and maybe nearer to the horizontal center line. Both would cause them to be farther apart than the screws on a '54 light. I don't have measurments. Also, the lens is different. > '55(2nd) tail light- Lonnie
- Lonnie My '54 3104Photos that I have shared on Stovebolt via PhotoBucket are no longer available. Please contact me if you want a photo from an old post. lonniecook [at] aol [dot] com. I sold my '54 3104 12/12/2017, but I still visit Stovebolt. OLD STUFF ... houses, furniture, cars, wine ... I love it all | | | | Joined: Mar 2011 Posts: 277 'Bolter | 'Bolter Joined: Mar 2011 Posts: 277 | Hi List,
I found this post while researching tailights for the 55 first series. Lonnie stated that stainless bezels were available for the deluxe cab, was that just the bezel or was the body stainless too?
Tanks,
Joe
1955 First Series 3100
| | | | Joined: Mar 2011 Posts: 277 'Bolter | 'Bolter Joined: Mar 2011 Posts: 277 | Not to hijack but the lights that I bought that were supposed to be 54-55.1 lights have the following stamped in them
NAPA 180 SAE STIL 170
I should probably assume these were a replacement NAPA light :-(
1955 First Series 3100
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