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#94434 01/26/2006 10:05 PM | Joined: Jul 2004 Posts: 5,708 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Jul 2004 Posts: 5,708 | I was looking at a manual for a '47 Chevrolet pickup. They described a switch mounted on the starter and linked to the "stomper" that was called a ignition reversing switch. This switch reversed the system polarity through the points on run, I think, to reduce arcing and extend the point life.
I have never heard of this item..has anyone else!
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#94435 01/26/2006 10:20 PM | Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 63 Wrench Fetcher | | Wrench Fetcher Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 63 | Yea,... I'm driving a stock 41' 1/2 ton that has it. as far as I know it still works. It might have been around earlier than that.
1941 AK named "PETEY" my buddy.
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#94436 01/26/2006 10:55 PM | Joined: Aug 2005 Posts: 6,377 Ex Hall Monitor | | Ex Hall Monitor Joined: Aug 2005 Posts: 6,377 | Boy Stuart, that's a strange one to me. While we're on the subject of strange bolt engineering, my 38 has an "octane selector". Ever see one of those? I never had.
Save a life, adopt a senior shelter pet. The three main causes of blindness: Cataracts, Politics, Religion. Name your dog Naked so you can walk Naked in the park.
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#94437 01/26/2006 11:48 PM | Joined: Jul 2004 Posts: 5,708 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Jul 2004 Posts: 5,708 | Tiny,
I have never seen a octane selector. I had a '38 sedan (master?) with knee action suspension and that funny armored cable from key to coil.
Tweak,
Cool..how did you find out what it was and how it worked?
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#94438 01/26/2006 11:52 PM | Joined: Feb 2002 Posts: 12,029 Cruising in the Passing Lane | | Cruising in the Passing Lane Joined: Feb 2002 Posts: 12,029 | the octane selector was a distributer advanceing/retarding thing - it's what they called the advance back then
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#94439 01/27/2006 12:14 AM | Joined: Jan 2006 Posts: 586 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: Jan 2006 Posts: 586 | My understanding of that switch on the side of the starter switch(mounted atop the starter) was to send full battery voltage to the coil during starter operation.Check your Chevy Duty catalog,I think they sell them.
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#94440 01/27/2006 12:45 AM | Joined: Mar 2002 Posts: 9,115 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Mar 2002 Posts: 9,115 | That switch actually reverses the polarity of the current in the points, each time the truck is started. I bought a starter on Ebay a few years ago and it had one of those. There is an extra linkage to it. In reality it just presented something more to break down. | | |
#94441 01/27/2006 2:45 AM | Joined: Dec 2004 Posts: 452 Member | | Member Joined: Dec 2004 Posts: 452 | Originally posted by truckernix: In reality it just presented something more to break down. Yep, those switches were eliminated late in the '48 model year "due to field maintenance problems".
Curt ---- 1953 Chevy 6400, 1957 Chevy 2dr Sedan --"Mediocrity is easy, the good things take time"
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#94442 01/27/2006 2:53 AM | Joined: Aug 2005 Posts: 6,377 Ex Hall Monitor | | Ex Hall Monitor Joined: Aug 2005 Posts: 6,377 | Bill is correct. It's a graduated adjustment on the distributor that allows you to advance or retard the timing by as much as 6 deg. This was to allow the owner to adjust to the variable quality of gas available then. Here is the best pic I have but it isn't a good one. You can see the setup at the base of the distributor cap. If you look close you can see the adjusting knobs & the pointer. http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f167/Tinys1938/Im001283.jpg
Save a life, adopt a senior shelter pet. The three main causes of blindness: Cataracts, Politics, Religion. Name your dog Naked so you can walk Naked in the park.
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#94443 01/27/2006 5:05 AM | Joined: Oct 2005 Posts: 738 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: Oct 2005 Posts: 738 |
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#94444 01/27/2006 7:10 AM | Joined: Apr 2002 Posts: 1,571 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: Apr 2002 Posts: 1,571 | My dad's 1930 Fjord AA has an advance control on the steering column, opposite the hand throttle. The manual just calls it a "spark advance." | | |
#94445 01/27/2006 11:50 PM | Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 63 Wrench Fetcher | | Wrench Fetcher Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 63 | Stuart,... I found it on page 280 of the 41' shop manual. http://chevy.tocmp.com/1941shop/41csm280.htm . Tells a little about it too.
1941 AK named "PETEY" my buddy.
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#94446 01/28/2006 1:56 AM | Joined: Jul 2004 Posts: 5,708 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Jul 2004 Posts: 5,708 | Tweak, Pretty cool...who said GM engineers weren't smoking hemp on the job! Stuart | | |
#94447 01/28/2006 3:19 PM | Joined: Jan 2006 Posts: 586 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: Jan 2006 Posts: 586 | Thanks Tweak,A picture is worth a 1,000 words!!This is not at all what I have seen.Mine was a terminal and pigtail wire off the side of the starter(stomp on me)switch that ran to the coil.
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#94448 01/28/2006 7:15 PM | Joined: Jul 2004 Posts: 5,708 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Jul 2004 Posts: 5,708 | gtow69,
I think your switch delivers 12 volts to the coil on start up only. I have seen those switches in the books, and just went to confirm it in Chev's of the 40's, but couldn't find it.
I think these were aftermarket items developed for folks with the stomp starter that have retrofitted to the 12 volt system. I might be all wet on this, but can't think of a 6 volt use for them. In the 6 volt arrangement, I don't think voltage is reduced to the coil.
Does your Studie have the V-8 in it? I remember these (327?) as being pretty spunky mothers!
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#94449 01/29/2006 6:36 PM | Joined: Jan 2006 Posts: 586 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: Jan 2006 Posts: 586 | Yes Atomarc,but it is an orignal 259 cid with a (GM)two speed automatic.Reverse is where low is on a newer automatic.Fun car to drive and sorta snappy.Parts are costly and rare.
Wanted Good Woman: Must be able to cook , clean , sew , tune engines and polish trucks. Must have old Stovebolt and garage. Please send picture of old Stovebolt and garage.
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