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on the Internet for over 30 years! and not clogged down with Ads! Again, thanks! | | | | Joined: Feb 2001 Posts: 95 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Feb 2001 Posts: 95 | I bought part number EL135 from Jim Carter Truck Parts to step 12V down to 6V for the heater motor in a 1948 3600.
Which side of the heater switch should it be placed?
1.) 12V source to heater control switch
2.) Heater control switch to heater motor?
Is there a better choice for a voltage reducer? | | | | | Joined: Sep 2001 Posts: 29,269 Bubba - Curmudgeon | | Bubba - Curmudgeon Joined: Sep 2001 Posts: 29,269 | I'd put that reducer (which looks OK) on the input side of the switch. | | | | | Joined: Mar 2002 Posts: 9,115 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Mar 2002 Posts: 9,115 | That resistor is intended to be bolted to sheet metal to dissipate the heat. That exact resistor costs around 3.50 at an electronics supply house. | | | | | Joined: Sep 2001 Posts: 29,269 Bubba - Curmudgeon | | Bubba - Curmudgeon Joined: Sep 2001 Posts: 29,269 | truckernix,
What would be a brand name and part number for that resistor?
Thanks,
| | | | | Joined: Aug 2011 Posts: 687 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: Aug 2011 Posts: 687 | Wouldn't it make better sense to replace the heater motor with a 12V motor? I'm not sure of the current draw from the 6V motor, but think it's rather high therefore the resistor will get pretty hot. Be careful. | | | | | Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 9,671 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 9,671 | Actually in quantities of one about the cheapest you could find them at someplace like Allied or Mouser is about five bucks. All they are is a wirewound, aluminum housed, chassis mount, power resistor. JC gives you all the specs that you need to order one from any electronics supply house. Here's one example from Vishay, but there are many others: http://www.vishay.com/docs/30201/30201.pdfIf you threw it in with a group of other things on an order from one of our old truck vendors it would come out about the same as if you ordered one from an electronics supply and had to pay the shipping for one item. And you are correct Dave, picture a 50watt light bulb under the dash. But it's even worse because there is no energy being dissipated as light so it's all heat. That's ok if it's mounted to a panel as a heat sink as mentioned earlier. Denny G
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Denny G Sandwich, IL
| | | | | Joined: May 2005 Posts: 8,983 Sir Searchalot | | Sir Searchalot Joined: May 2005 Posts: 8,983 | The question was: which side of the switch. TC is only one to answer. I would have said output side, but I don't think it would make any difference electrically unless the switch can only handle 6V. secondly, these resistors have heat sink fins on them and need to be places in fairly open air path, not tucked away. They will not start a fire.
Right is right, even if everyone is against it, and wrong is wrong, even if everyone is for it. - William Penn | | | | | Joined: Mar 2002 Posts: 9,115 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Mar 2002 Posts: 9,115 | Well most of these switches have a light in them. So if one wanted to place the resistor after the switch one would want to replace the bulb with a 12 volt bulb. I can't remember whether the light bulb is replaceable or not. | | | | | Joined: Sep 2001 Posts: 29,269 Bubba - Curmudgeon | | Bubba - Curmudgeon Joined: Sep 2001 Posts: 29,269 | My original switches do not have a light bulb.
An original switch got quite hot (glowing hot) when I used the 6v heater without a resistor after converting a truck temporarily to 12v (back in the 70s). I just figured the switch would get less hot with the resistor before the switch.
| | | | | Joined: Mar 2002 Posts: 9,115 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Mar 2002 Posts: 9,115 | Without a light it wouldn't really make a difference. I am surprised that your original survived on 12 volts. On six volts those resistors would glow. I discovered that the 6 volt replacements that i was able to buy melted with the 6 volts. I now only use it on high. | | | | | Joined: May 2005 Posts: 8,983 Sir Searchalot | | Sir Searchalot Joined: May 2005 Posts: 8,983 |
Right is right, even if everyone is against it, and wrong is wrong, even if everyone is for it. - William Penn | | | | | Joined: Feb 2001 Posts: 95 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Feb 2001 Posts: 95 | I failed to mention what fan switch I'm using... it is part number EL318 form JC also. This switch is three positions; 12V and does have a removable light bulb behind the knob. With the information given here I have developed the following plan for a circuit. 12V Feed to http://www.ynzyesterdaysparts.com/index.php?_a=product&product_id=89"> Inline Fuse Holder then to the fan switch EL318. From the switch to the voltage reducer EL135 mounted to an Aluminum heat sink then to heater motor. Please advise of any concerns with this circuit. Thanks. | | | | | Joined: May 2005 Posts: 8,983 Sir Searchalot | | Sir Searchalot Joined: May 2005 Posts: 8,983 | Perfect. Who cares if the bulb and resistor gets hot? Aren't we wanting heat? 
Right is right, even if everyone is against it, and wrong is wrong, even if everyone is for it. - William Penn | | | | | Joined: Mar 2002 Posts: 9,115 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Mar 2002 Posts: 9,115 | red450, I don't understand the comment from bartamos but yes, what you described should work fine. | | | | | Joined: May 2005 Posts: 8,983 Sir Searchalot | | Sir Searchalot Joined: May 2005 Posts: 8,983 | Well, anyway Truckernix, Happy Birthday. Try to see the humor in life a little more.
Right is right, even if everyone is against it, and wrong is wrong, even if everyone is for it. - William Penn | | | | | Joined: Mar 2002 Posts: 9,115 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Mar 2002 Posts: 9,115 | Thanks for the happy birthday. I enjoy humor but I thought you were making a point that I missed, sorry. | | | | | Joined: May 2005 Posts: 8,983 Sir Searchalot | | Sir Searchalot Joined: May 2005 Posts: 8,983 | Down here in AZ. there is a "cinco de mayo" celebration. But doesn't mean anything to me. But your birthday does. Enjoy it!!
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