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Mod | | Forums66 Topics126,780 Posts1,039,296 Members48,100 | Most Online2,175 Jul 21st, 2025 | | | Joined: Apr 2009 Posts: 29 New Guy | New Guy Joined: Apr 2009 Posts: 29 | On my brother-in laws 1954 p/u the steering is scary loose. We tried the adjustments but not enough improvement. Are we at rebuild point? Hard to do? recommend sending out? Thanks Scott
| | | | Joined: Apr 2009 Posts: 29 New Guy | New Guy Joined: Apr 2009 Posts: 29 | I have been reading through past posts on steering. all other components are new and tight. excessive play in wheel. We were thinking box is wore beyond further adjustment? | | | | Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 9,671 'Bolter | 'Bolter Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 9,671 | How did you make the adjustments? If nothing is broken inside the steering box you should be able to adjust the sector to the point that it literally locks up the box even if it is worn. But you are correct in your concern for safety, faulty steering is nothing to mess with. If you feel uncomfortable with your efforts then it would be a very good move to seek a real mechanics advice.
Denny G
Denny G Sandwich, IL
| | | | Joined: Apr 2009 Posts: 29 New Guy | New Guy Joined: Apr 2009 Posts: 29 | The adjustment screw is just about all the way in, steering is stiff but it has a lot of play at the steering wheel | | | | Joined: Sep 2001 Posts: 29,262 Bubba - Curmudgeon | Bubba - Curmudgeon Joined: Sep 2001 Posts: 29,262 | Did you go through the adjustment procedures in the Shop Manual? What measurement tool did you use for the worm bearing adjustment?
| | | | Joined: Oct 2010 Posts: 1,232 'Bolter | 'Bolter Joined: Oct 2010 Posts: 1,232 | I adjusted about a quarter turn of play out of my steering. Easy to do. I followed the Shop Manual. > Shop Manual - Steering Gear AdjustmentsYou must disconnect the pitman arm before making the adjustments. Advance Auto Parts, and probably other FLAPS, will loan a puller. I used a digital fish scale to check the pull on the steering wheel as described in the Shop Manual. I'm not real sure that a scale is even needed. > Digital Fish ScaleIf all else fails, instructions for rebuilding the box are in the Shop Manual and in GM Steering Manuals. Plus, do a search on Stovebolt for real world advice. > Shop Manual - Steering Gear Major Service> Overhauling Truck Steering GearsMany 'Bolters recommend refilling the box with John Deere Cornhead grease. You can find more info in a Stovebolt search. Good luck, - Lonnie
- Lonnie My '54 3104Photos that I have shared on Stovebolt via PhotoBucket are no longer available. Please contact me if you want a photo from an old post. lonniecook [at] aol [dot] com. I sold my '54 3104 12/12/2017, but I still visit Stovebolt. OLD STUFF ... houses, furniture, cars, wine ... I love it all | | | | Joined: Jun 2004 Posts: 8,597 Riding in the Passing Lane | Riding in the Passing Lane Joined: Jun 2004 Posts: 8,597 | If all else is good nothing will help it drive better then pulling the steering gear out & rebuilding it. There is not that much to them. They say money can't buy happiness. It can buy old Chevy trucks though. Same thing. 1972 Chevy c10 Cheyenne SuperIn the Gallery Forum | | | | Joined: Feb 2000 Posts: 4,886 'Bolter | 'Bolter Joined: Feb 2000 Posts: 4,886 | The teeth on the sector can wear and no amount of adjusting will fix it. Sounds like you are at that point. It will need to come off for a look or replacement.
Joe | | | | Joined: Apr 2009 Posts: 29 New Guy | New Guy Joined: Apr 2009 Posts: 29 | Thanks guys, He assured me we followed manual, with the exception of the scale. So, it maybe time to remove it and see. | | | | Joined: May 2006 Posts: 8,351 'Bolter | 'Bolter Joined: May 2006 Posts: 8,351 | Something not mentioned that might be worth checking into in addition, the preload on the tie rod ends, if it still has the factory style ends. Even if they feel "tight", they may not have enough preload on them, which can give a loose steering feel. I found that out the hard way myself, and chased it by adjusting the box. Once the tie rod was adjusted to the proper preload, the steering was fine.
Bill Burmeister | | | | Joined: Sep 2001 Posts: 29,262 Bubba - Curmudgeon | Bubba - Curmudgeon Joined: Sep 2001 Posts: 29,262 | He assured me we followed manual, with the exception of the scale. A good/correct adjustment was not carried out. | | | | Joined: Apr 2009 Posts: 29 New Guy | New Guy Joined: Apr 2009 Posts: 29 | He assured me we followed manual, with the exception of the scale. A good/correct adjustment was not carried out. I do agree. We removed box and disasembled. Ordered rebuild kit from Jim Carter. After seeing the guts, I now understand the importance of the pittman arm removal. The worm gear parts do not appear to be too worn out, so we may be sucessful. Also have a scale to do a proper adjustment. Much better understanding of how it adjusts now. | | | | Joined: Sep 2001 Posts: 29,262 Bubba - Curmudgeon | Bubba - Curmudgeon Joined: Sep 2001 Posts: 29,262 | Good job, chevymgb
Be sure to post a post-adjustment driving report.
| | | | Joined: Apr 2009 Posts: 29 New Guy | New Guy Joined: Apr 2009 Posts: 29 | Thanks everyone. I will let you know the results. On the bench the gear "fingers?" in the box appear to have enough adjustment left. Worm drive on shaft looks good. Bearings & bushing are most diffenatly in need of replacement.
Thanks again Scott
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| | | | Joined: Nov 2012 Posts: 543 Shop Shark | Shop Shark Joined: Nov 2012 Posts: 543 | Mine was loose and really scary sloppy when I first bought it...a 49. Turned out that pretty much all the front end components were badly worn and missing the bushings. King pins loose and steering box held on my one thread of the nut. I chose to put in a whole new front clip but that was expensive. For me, safety way out weighed originality. I'll also go with radials which will, hopefully, make it drive like new and, most importantly, be safe. | | |
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