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#92619 08/12/2005 3:43 PM | Joined: May 2002 Posts: 30 Wrench Fetcher | | Wrench Fetcher Joined: May 2002 Posts: 30 | Hi Guys, Just wondering if anyone knows what voltage a 56-3200 was originally. I know that F@@d trucks didn't change to 12 Volt until 57, but not sure about Chevy trucks. Thanx, Gene & Jr
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#92620 08/12/2005 3:47 PM | Joined: May 2005 Posts: 314 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: May 2005 Posts: 314 | I'm pretty sure it was '55 for Chevy. | | |
#92621 08/12/2005 5:32 PM | Joined: Feb 2002 Posts: 12,029 Cruising in the Passing Lane | | Cruising in the Passing Lane Joined: Feb 2002 Posts: 12,029 | 12V from early 55 - took longer for Ford to figger it out Bill | | |
#92622 08/12/2005 10:20 PM | Joined: Jun 2004 Posts: 8,597 Riding in the Passing Lane | | Riding in the Passing Lane Joined: Jun 2004 Posts: 8,597 | Ford started 12volts in 56.  They say money can't buy happiness. It can buy old Chevy trucks though. Same thing. 1972 Chevy c10 Cheyenne SuperIn the Gallery Forum | | |
#92623 08/19/2005 6:09 AM | Joined: Jul 2005 Posts: 117 Wrench Fetcher | | Wrench Fetcher Joined: Jul 2005 Posts: 117 | Hey Gene, My '56 6500 is an original 12volt so I'd bet yours is too. | | |
#92624 08/19/2005 12:42 PM | Joined: Sep 2001 Posts: 29,269 Bubba - Curmudgeon | | Bubba - Curmudgeon Joined: Sep 2001 Posts: 29,269 | Chevrolet trucks changed to 12v (negative ground) in all second series 1955 trucks (from 6v negative ground).
GMC trucks changed from 6v positive ground to 12v negative ground in 1956. | | |
#92625 08/19/2005 5:38 PM | Joined: Aug 2000 Posts: 197 Member | | Member Joined: Aug 2000 Posts: 197 | There were 12V gmc trucks prior to 55. My '39 to '53 gmc parts manual lists a dropping resistor for the fuel gauge, 12V starter, and 12V generator.
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#92626 08/20/2005 1:13 AM | Joined: Apr 2002 Posts: 1,571 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: Apr 2002 Posts: 1,571 | V8 GMCs were 12v in '55.2. Only the I6 models retained the positive ground 6v system.
reo_guy, those were all heavy-duty trucks. | | |
#92627 08/20/2005 1:57 PM | Joined: Aug 2000 Posts: 197 Member | | Member Joined: Aug 2000 Posts: 197 | GMCpanel, the applications listed start with the 100 series. So it does seem that one could have had 12V 1/2 ton prior to '55.
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#92628 08/20/2005 2:22 PM | Joined: Sep 2001 Posts: 29,269 Bubba - Curmudgeon | | Bubba - Curmudgeon Joined: Sep 2001 Posts: 29,269 | Maybe the '39-'53 GMC parts manual has that resistor because so many people had converted to 12v by the time it was printed? Check out page 24 in this 1955-2nd GMC truck brochure. It seems to confirm GMCpanels information. Tim | | |
#92629 08/20/2005 5:18 PM | Joined: May 2001 Posts: 7,438 Extreme Gabster | | Extreme Gabster Joined: May 2001 Posts: 7,438 | Some of the military GMC were 24V. The dropping resistor reo_guy saw listed may be 24V to 12V. I'm almost certain there were no 12V civilian trucks, 2-ton and below, before the V8s as GMC panel has listed. I think some of the larger GMCs may have been 12V before but I don't have documentation on what models. | | |
#92630 08/20/2005 6:22 PM | Joined: Aug 2000 Posts: 197 Member | | Member Joined: Aug 2000 Posts: 197 | The parts manual was printed in 1953. It is the light duty master parts book for models 100 through 370. There is an asterisk next to the 12V part numbers (and other options such as hydramatic). The legend for the asterisk states "Determine if option required." The starters and generator descriptions specifically state 12V. It is obvious that 12V was in fact available. Maybe not standard, but still available.
The M211 and M135 military trucks were 24V. Their predecessor, the CCKW was 6V. I had a pair of the M135 and my brother has two CCKWs.
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#92631 08/21/2005 8:50 AM | Joined: May 2001 Posts: 7,438 Extreme Gabster | | Extreme Gabster Joined: May 2001 Posts: 7,438 | reo_guy, it's in my '54 book too, listed for models 100 on up. It lists 12V headlight bulbs like they used before sealed beams so it seems this might have been an option as early as '41. | | |
#92632 08/21/2005 11:08 AM | Joined: Apr 2002 Posts: 1,571 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: Apr 2002 Posts: 1,571 | Hmm...that's a weird one. Someone needs to bring this up as a discussion over on the Old GMC board - the last I heard, no one over there had ever heard of a pre-55 12v light or medium-duty GMC. Some of them have been in this old truck biz for a long time - but if it was an option, I'd love to hear the details. | | |
#92633 08/21/2005 1:19 PM | Joined: Aug 2000 Posts: 197 Member | | Member Joined: Aug 2000 Posts: 197 | What is unusual is that there is no mention in the light duty service manual. If anything, it must have been a rare option.
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#92634 08/21/2005 3:20 PM | Joined: Feb 2002 Posts: 12,029 Cruising in the Passing Lane | | Cruising in the Passing Lane Joined: Feb 2002 Posts: 12,029 | what you hafta keep in mind is a parts book covers up to the year it was published, and will include some things that became standard practice after the manufacture of the earlier vehicles - as soon as GMC had used 12v for any application, shops would have been "updating" previous models - GM would simply have made adjustments to parts listing to make it easier for parts dept's to sell folks what they were asking for, and be sure it would fit the application
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#92635 08/21/2005 5:54 PM | Joined: Sep 2001 Posts: 29,269 Bubba - Curmudgeon | | Bubba - Curmudgeon Joined: Sep 2001 Posts: 29,269 | Is there a possibility that GMC offered parts and/or accessories for dealers to use when a fleet/commercial/government customer submitted a bid with specifications that required a 12v system?
I ask this because the 1955 GMC Sales brochure makes specific reference to providing new RPOs to meet 12v bid-specifications, especially for school buses and larger trucks. Having RPOs instead of parts/accessories would make life easier for a GMC dealer. Just a guess. | | |
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