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#92092 06/12/2005 11:29 PM
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I've got a 54 3100 with a 235 that has been converted to 12V..What do I need to do to get rid of the floor starter and install a regular ignition switch on the dash? Looked through my catalogs, but figured someone here would be able to tell me an easy way to do it...Thanks

#92093 06/13/2005 12:35 AM
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I believe that to go to the 12v starter, you have to change the flywheel along with the starter. If you do a search, you will find some threads on this.


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#92094 06/13/2005 1:04 AM
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So what year did the 235 get changed to 12V in production? And I did do a search with no results..When they quit the floor starter?

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12v trucks started in 55 - the floor starter went till at least 59 - whatsa matter w/ the floor stomp start? coolest feature you got! if you're wanting to change the starter cuz the truck is 12v now, the 6v starter will work fine on 12v

I imagine if all you want to do is change the foot stomp for the v8 style ign sw, you could get a later starter [60+] and bolt it in, change the sw - don't know about the bendix and ring gears, but I'd expect'em to be the same on any full pressure 235 - GM didn't waste money changing design details year to year - might even be able to just swap starter motor cases to get the one that mounts the solenoid

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#92096 06/13/2005 1:38 AM
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shooper,

Switch to 12v in Chevrolet trucks took place in 1955 2nd series.

It looks like the foot starter was available until 1959. From 1954-1959, the foot starter switch had a side terminal to send 12v to the coil during cranking (lead on 12v systems, the ignition to the coil ran through a ballast resistor).

I do not know if a solenoid driven started was available as an option during those years (or if automatic transmission trucks had a solenoid driven starter as was the case in 1954 6v Hydra-Matic equipped trucks).

I got a dash-mounted ignition switch from Chevy Duty for one of my '54 trucks that has a 1960 12v solenoid-driven starter. The switch is a little loose in the '54's original hole in dash. The part number might have been 53-411. Yes, a 12v solenoid starter must be matched with the appropriate flywheel (I do not know if the teeth were the same on 6v and 12v foot starters/flywheels).

Tim

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For the record 6V and 12V starters have different size drive teeth and they must be used with the appropriate flywheel ring gear.


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Get a starter from a car with selenoid on top.
49-54 6 volt will work fine. I too like the floor starter. Young people can,t believe it. smile


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#92099 06/13/2005 10:38 PM
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a young guy at the inspections station said he could start anything when I asked if he needed any help with my 52,,after a few min,, how do you start this thing, the key is on but nothing happens..


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OK..you twisted my arm..Just got done putting a new boot and pedal pad on my floor starter..
Joker, had about the same experience, but just the opposite, it was with an older guy at a tire place..He asked for my keys to pull it in to the bay, and I asked him if he knew how to start it...Should have seen the look he gave me..We are good friends now..Take care

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I thought about changing mine too but decided that the foot starter was kind of cool. It's also a good theft deterant- the only people that could start it would be a fellow bolter or someone over 50 so I think it's pretty safe in the driveway.

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I agree, but just kept thinking about hooking two wires together and hitting the foot starter..So, I went out and bought one of those Club things that fastens on the steering wheel..They are gonna have to tow mine if they want it..Take care

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or if they have a few hand tools, take off the steering wheel and use vise grips to get it on their roll back grin

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I knew an old-timer who lived in LA and had a old oval window bug with a push button starter. He said many of people tried and tried to steal it but no one could ever figure out how to start it.

My 59 has a push button on the dash , but im going to convert it back to the floor. Mainly for security purposes, not to mention the nostalgia.

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Those 50yr old steering wheels don't come off real easy with hand tools, and that old horn sure makes a lot of noise

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Be sure to put the club ON the steering wheel. When I was in college, I had a friend who had one and forgot to put it on the night that his car was stolen. They used his club to break out all of his windows. OUCH!

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I just thought- wire the horn to the starter with a switch under the dash to turn it off. Hit the starter- blow the horn. In the '70's when people were stealing gas, Dad wired his fuel tank door to the horn and never lost a drop again... but he did scare a few gas station attendents when he "forgot" to turn it off.

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haha so true! I couldn't figure out how to start my truck either (I then found out it was seized frown ). Definantly a great security deterrant. One of the great features of these trucks we love (kinda like the cowl vent infront of the windsheild grin ).
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#92109 06/17/2005 9:01 PM
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shooper,
here are a couple of search results:
http://www.stovebolt.com/bboard/cgi-bin//ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=3;t=000882#000007

http://www.stovebolt.com/bboard/cgi-bin//ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=3;t=000757#000007


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Shooper,
I switched over from 6 --> 12 about 3 years ago and I'm still using my original foot starter. Would never consider changing it. It is one of the coolest features of the truck.


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