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on the Internet for over 30 years! and not clogged down with Ads! Again, thanks! | | | | Joined: Dec 2010 Posts: 62 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Dec 2010 Posts: 62 | My '56 GMC 350 lcf motor is stuck. I'm trying to find out what motor I actually have 270 or 302 and is it one worth rebuilding ? I looked for the #'s and I found these : GMC4 2135412 Can someone tell me what I have ? Thanks in advance. | | | | | Joined: Sep 2001 Posts: 29,269 Bubba - Curmudgeon | | Bubba - Curmudgeon Joined: Sep 2001 Posts: 29,269 | Where did you find that code on the engine. On GMC 6-cylinder engines, the engine size is usually pressed into the block as part of the engine serial number code (to the rear of where the distributor goes into the block). 1946-1954 270 | | | | | Joined: Dec 2010 Posts: 62 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Dec 2010 Posts: 62 | Those #'s are on the intake side of the motor. So would this be a good candidate for a rebuild or is this one of those early ones that is a splash oiling. | | | | | Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 2,733 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 2,733 | I don't think any of the GMC engines were splash oilers but even if they were that would not make it a bad engine. A zillion Chevies ran and still run that way and give great service. I really don't understand the widespread and I beleive misunderstood bias against those engines. They were every bit as good as the flathead F*%ds and Chrysler engines of the day. And now everyone seems to want a flathead V8. | | | | | Joined: Jan 2013 Posts: 603 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: Jan 2013 Posts: 603 | Have you looked on the backside of the glovebox lid? My 57 GMC 370 LCF has all kinds of info on a tag riveted on the lid. It tells me mine is a 270 engine, cab 1762,Tranny GM type SM420 4speed and lots of other stuff including rear end,spring leaves, ectra. I have found out that GMC numbers are nothing like Chevy. Wayne.
57 GMC LCF 370 55 John Deere 40-W 59 John Deere 430-W 2000 GMC 4x4 56 John Deere 420-W Pix on Photobucket | | | | | Joined: Sep 2001 Posts: 29,269 Bubba - Curmudgeon | | Bubba - Curmudgeon Joined: Sep 2001 Posts: 29,269 | It is best to use codes on the engine to ID it. Engines get swapped.
The 270 is an excellent engine. It is a full-pressure/high-pressure engine.
However, even the 216 and early 235 engines with babbetted rods and dippers were not really a splash oil engine.
| | | | | Joined: Dec 2010 Posts: 62 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Dec 2010 Posts: 62 | Thanks for all of the input. I'm definetly going to rebuild it. | | | | | Joined: Mar 2004 Posts: 6,214 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Mar 2004 Posts: 6,214 | So did you figure out what you have based on the stamped serial number? Do tell... Mike B  | | | | | Joined: Dec 2010 Posts: 62 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Dec 2010 Posts: 62 | The numbers on the block come up 46-54 270. | | | | | Joined: Nov 2009 Posts: 73 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Nov 2009 Posts: 73 | I thought all the lcf's came with V8 engines? | | | | | Joined: Jan 2013 Posts: 603 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: Jan 2013 Posts: 603 | GMC's are not really called LCF by GM. That designation was for Chevy's. GMC's were called Short Conventionals in the sales brochures.. And yes they came with 6 cyl. 270, 302 and another 6 I can't remember. Also v-8 engines. A lot of the engines were Pontiac, mine says Pontiac in the glove box.
57 GMC LCF 370 55 John Deere 40-W 59 John Deere 430-W 2000 GMC 4x4 56 John Deere 420-W Pix on Photobucket | | | | | Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 4,961 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 4,961 | A 350 would have been born with a 270 if its a 6 cylinder. The Pontiac in the glove box refers to Pontiac MI. It was the 400 series that got the 302 engines. However, as Tim said, almost anything from a 228 up to a 302 could have been installed because they all bolt in. Scrape the flat part of the distributor boss and see if it looks like it is factory machined. If so, The first 3 numbers will be the displacement. | | | | | Joined: Jun 2011 Posts: 5,096 Crusing in the Passing Lane | | Crusing in the Passing Lane Joined: Jun 2011 Posts: 5,096 | LCF's came w/ 302's, had one, hard to remove, look by the starter, on a machined pad, right side of engine, SN starts w/ displacement, i.e. 302xxxxx. What trans do you have? All 228, 236, 248, 256, 270, 302, were, from the start, full pressure oiling, starting in '38 when that engine was introduced. Good oil sys. mod tips for full flow oil filter, etc., avail.
'37 GMC T-18 w/ DD 4-53T, RTO-610, 6231 aux., '95 GMC running gear, full disc brakes, power steering, 22.5 wheels and tires. '47 GMC 1 ton w/ 302, NP-540, 4wd, full width Blazer front axle. '54 GMC 630 w/ 503 gasser, 5 speed, ex fire truck, shortened WB 4', install 8' bed. '55 GMC 370 w/270, 420 4 speed, grain, dump bed truck from ND. Works OK.
| | | | | Joined: Jan 2013 Posts: 603 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: Jan 2013 Posts: 603 | My GMC LCF 370 w/270 engine, has a big curved pipe and hose attached to the carb and the oil bath breather is off to the side mounted on a bracket. Is this the original setup? Thanks.
57 GMC LCF 370 55 John Deere 40-W 59 John Deere 430-W 2000 GMC 4x4 56 John Deere 420-W Pix on Photobucket | | | | | Joined: Nov 2009 Posts: 73 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Nov 2009 Posts: 73 | Did the Chevrolet LCF's just come with V8's? | | | | | Joined: Jun 2011 Posts: 5,096 Crusing in the Passing Lane | | Crusing in the Passing Lane Joined: Jun 2011 Posts: 5,096 |
'37 GMC T-18 w/ DD 4-53T, RTO-610, 6231 aux., '95 GMC running gear, full disc brakes, power steering, 22.5 wheels and tires. '47 GMC 1 ton w/ 302, NP-540, 4wd, full width Blazer front axle. '54 GMC 630 w/ 503 gasser, 5 speed, ex fire truck, shortened WB 4', install 8' bed. '55 GMC 370 w/270, 420 4 speed, grain, dump bed truck from ND. Works OK.
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