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Carburetor question #917968 02/07/2013 10:08 AM
Joined: Jan 2013 Posts: 33 Cincinnati, OH F Flyer Wrench Fetcher
Flyer Wrench Fetcher F Joined: Jan 2013 Posts: 33 Cincinnati, OH	Which carburetor should go with 1948-1950 216 engine? I bought a chassis with engine/tranny and rear diff as a project, but the carburetor was missing. I see "Rochester" and "Carter" carbs online but wonder if they both would fit or if one is better, etc. The truck was a 1950, but the engine i.d. says that it was for a 1948 Chevrolet passenger car.

Re: Carburetor question Flyer #917985 02/07/2013 11:42 AM
Joined: Sep 2001 Posts: 29,269 Jarvisburg, NC, USA tclederman Bubba - Curmudgeon
tclederman Bubba - Curmudgeon Joined: Sep 2001 Posts: 29,269 Jarvisburg, NC, USA	If both carburetors came off a 216 engine, they should both "fit" onto the intake manifold. The throttle/choke linkages should be the same. I think the car and truck air cleaners would be different but either will work. (wait to hear from someone else on these matters) Some (many) people like the Carter over the Rochester. Carter carburetors used on cars in 1948. Carter carburetors used on trucks in 1948. Carter carburetor used on cars in 1949. Carter carburetors used on trucks in 1949. Rochester carburetor on cars in 1950. The model B Rochester was introduced to trucks in 1950. Tim 1954Advance-Design.com 1954 3106 Carryall Suburban 1954 3104 5-window pickup w/Hydra-Matic The 216 and early 235 engines are not "splash oilers" -- this is a splash oiler.

Re: Carburetor question tclederman #918031 02/07/2013 1:59 PM
Joined: Jan 2013 Posts: 33 Cincinnati, OH F Flyer Wrench Fetcher
Flyer Wrench Fetcher F Joined: Jan 2013 Posts: 33 Cincinnati, OH	Thank you! Appreciate your research from the manuals. I see carbs for $45 from scrap yards and $300 on Ebay for rebuilt ones.

Re: Carburetor question Flyer #918053 02/07/2013 3:37 PM
Joined: Feb 2008 Posts: 1,122 USA 4 46Sparky 'Bolter
46Sparky 'Bolter 4 Joined: Feb 2008 Posts: 1,122 USA	As I recall the '49 Carter W-1 carbs were a one year model. Some years ago I needed one rebuilt and the kit was a special order item that was more costly than the other models. I recently had the carb rebuilt for the '46, it was a model 616-S Carter W-1 carb and the cost was $150. Hope that info helps.

Re: Carburetor question Flyer #918273 02/08/2013 10:10 AM
Joined: Sep 2001 Posts: 581 St. Louis, MO M Mikestem Shop Shark
Mikestem Shop Shark M Joined: Sep 2001 Posts: 581 St. Louis, MO	With enough research, you'll find (on this site and elsewhere) that common experience is the Carter W-1 is somewhat cheaper to buy and rebuild, and are generally considered to be bullet-proof. Carter refined this carb through the years, with the final version starting in 1941 - I think it's the 483s - addressing the last few minor issues with the W-1. The Rochester -as from the factory - gave a few more horsepower, but are widely known for being leaking, messy monsters. I think Carbking has said that he used to routinely have to put them in a jig to re-flatten the flanges. Other than the mess, I haven't heard that they're unreliable. I think the kits for them are reasonable as well. And they're plenty of them out there - they often show up on the earlier trucks as replacements for the Carters. Here's carb king's page for the W-1s. Carter W-1 Hope this helps? -Michael Please type slow, as I can't read very fast. 1939 Chevy/Central Fire Engine 1941 Chevy/American Fire Engine 1950 Chevy/American Fire Engine In the Gallery More Photos in Me Gallery

Re: Carburetor question Flyer #918281 02/08/2013 11:06 AM
Joined: Jan 2010 Posts: 4,263 Nevada D DADS50 Shop Shark
DADS50 Shop Shark D Joined: Jan 2010 Posts: 4,263 Nevada	I have a carter YF787s on my 50 216 manifold on a 235. I have no complaints. Good luck Here is some info on the Carter's from carbking Originally Posted by DADS50 Originally Posted by carbking I did an abbreviated list of these once before. This is a complete list taken one by one from the Carter master prints, and includes experimental carbs with numbers assigned, but no production. THERE ARE DIFFERENCES IN THESE CARBURETORS! THAT IS WHY THERE ARE DIFFERENT NUMBERS! Some of you have already experienced some of these differences such as the "ported" vs "manifold" vacuum take-off for the distibutor. Use the list as is, and I would guess few issues. However, changing from one application to another may lead to issues. At any rate, here is the list: Jon. Carter YF carburetors produced for use on Chevrolet 756s – 216 engine aftermarket 1937~1952 787s – 216 engine aftermarket 1937~1952 788s – 235 engine aftermarket 1950~1952 789s – 235 engine aftermarket 1950~1952 890s – 235 engine aftermarket manual choke (number assigned, no production) 891s – 235 engine aftermarket auto choke (number assigned, no production) 964s – 216 engine aftermarket manual choke 1937~1952 965s – 216 engine aftermarket auto choke 1937~1952 966s – 235 engine aftermarket auto choke 1950~1952 967s – 235 engine aftermarket manual choke 1950~1952 2008s – 216 engine aftermarket 1937~1952 2046s – 206 engine aftermarket 1932~1936 2100s – 235 engine aftermarket manual choke 1953~1956 2101s – 235 engine aftermarket auto choke 1953~1956 2104s – 261 engine aftermarket (number assigned, no production) 3055s – aftermarket (number assigned, no production) 3211s – 235 engine aftermarket 1957~1962 3379s – 153 engine original equipment manual trans 1962~1966 3402s – 153 engine original equipment auto trans 1962~1966 3711s – 194 engine aftermarket 1962 3760s – 230 engine (number assigned, no production) 3770s – 230 engine (taxi) original equipment auto transmission 1964~1965 3771s – 230 engine (taxi) original equipment manual trans 1964~1965 3772s – 194 engine auto transmission (number assigned, no production) 1964 3773s – 194 engine manual trans (number assigned, no production) 1964 3821s – 194 engine (van) original equipment 1964 3946s – 194 engine aftermarket 1964~1965 3946s – 230 engine aftermarket 1964~1965 3975s – 230 engine (van) original equipment manual trans 1965 3976s – 230 engine (van) original equipment auto trans 1965 4043s – 194 engine (van) original equipment manual trans 1966 4043s – 230 engine (van) original equipment manual trans 1966 4044s – 194 engine (van) original equipment auto trans 1966 4044s – 230 engine (van) original equipment auto trans 1966 4048s – 230 engine (van) aftermarket experimental 1963~1966 4072s – 194 engine original equipment auto trans CALIF smog 1966 4072s – 230 engine original equipment auto trans CALIF smog 1966 4073s – 194 engine original equipment manual trans CALIF smog 1966 4073s – 230 engine original equipment manual trans CALIF smog 1966 4080s – 194 engine original equipment (pass) auto trans CALIF smog 1966 4080s – 230 engine original equipment (pass) auto trans CALIF smog 1966 4080s – 250 engine original equipment (pass) auto trans CALIF smog 1966 4085s – 230 engine original equipment (truck) manual trans CALIF smog 1966 4085s – 250 engine original equipment (truck) manual trans CALIF smog 1966 4086s – 230 engine original equipment (truck) auto trans CALIF smog 1966 4086s – 250 engine original equipment (truck) auto trans CALIF smog 1966 4145s – 194 engine original equipment (truck) manual trans 1965~1966 4145s – 230 engine original equipment (truck) manual trans 1965~1966 4202s – 250 engine (taxi) original equipment auto trans 1966 4203s – 250 engine (taxi) original equipment manual trans 1966 4278s – (export to India) 4339s – 194 engine aftermarket 1963~1967 4339s – 230 engine aftermarket 1963~1967 4339s – 250 engine aftermarket 1963~1967 4367s – 230 engine original equipment manual trans CALIF smog 1967 4367s – 250 engine original equipment manual trans CALIF smog 1967 4368s – 194 engine original equipment auto trans CALIF smog 1967 4368s – 230 engine original equipment auto trans CALIF smog 1967 4368s – 250 engine original equipment auto trans CALIF smog 1967 4369s – 230 engine original equipment (truck) manual trans CALIF smog 1967 4369s – 250 engine original equipment (truck) manual trans CALIF smog 1967 4370s – 230 engine original equipment (truck) auto trans CALIF smog 1967 4370s – 250 engine original equipment (truck) auto trans CALIF smog 1967 4371s – 230 engine original equipment (truck) manual trans CALIF smog 1967 4371s – 250 engine original equipment (truck) manual trans CALIF smog 1967 4371s – 292 engine original equipment (truck) manual trans CALIF smog 1967 4372s – 250 engine original equipment (truck) auto trans CALIF smog 1967 4373s – 153 engine aftermarket manual trans 1963~1967 4374s – 153 engine aftermarket auto trans 1963~1967 4375s – 230 engine original equipment (truck) manual trans 1967 4375s – 250 engine original equipment (truck) manual trans 1967 4376s – 230 engine original equipment (truck) auto trans 1967 4376s – 250 engine original equipment (truck) auto trans 1967 4377s – 250 engine original equipment (taxi) manual trans CALIF smog 1967 4378s – 250 engine original equipment (taxi) auto trans CALIF smog 1967 4387s – 194 engine original equipment (truck) manual trans CALIF smog 1967 4480s – 230 engine aftermarket (all Federal) 1963~1967 4480s – 250 engine aftermarket (all Federal) 1963~1967 4492s – 194 engine aftermarket 1962 6213s – number assigned no production DADS50 YouTube 1950 chevy 3100

Re: Carburetor question Mikestem #918283 02/08/2013 11:07 AM
Joined: Jan 2010 Posts: 4,263 Nevada D DADS50 Shop Shark
DADS50 Shop Shark D Joined: Jan 2010 Posts: 4,263 Nevada	I have a carter YF787s on my 50 216 manifold on a 235. I have no complaints. Good luck Here is some info on the Carter's from carbking Originally Posted by DADS50 Originally Posted by carbking I did an abbreviated list of these once before. This is a complete list taken one by one from the Carter master prints, and includes experimental carbs with numbers assigned, but no production. THERE ARE DIFFERENCES IN THESE CARBURETORS! THAT IS WHY THERE ARE DIFFERENT NUMBERS! Some of you have already experienced some of these differences such as the "ported" vs "manifold" vacuum take-off for the distibutor. Use the list as is, and I would guess few issues. However, changing from one application to another may lead to issues. At any rate, here is the list: Jon. Carter YF carburetors produced for use on Chevrolet 756s – 216 engine aftermarket 1937~1952 787s – 216 engine aftermarket 1937~1952 788s – 235 engine aftermarket 1950~1952 789s – 235 engine aftermarket 1950~1952 890s – 235 engine aftermarket manual choke (number assigned, no production) 891s – 235 engine aftermarket auto choke (number assigned, no production) 964s – 216 engine aftermarket manual choke 1937~1952 965s – 216 engine aftermarket auto choke 1937~1952 966s – 235 engine aftermarket auto choke 1950~1952 967s – 235 engine aftermarket manual choke 1950~1952 2008s – 216 engine aftermarket 1937~1952 2046s – 206 engine aftermarket 1932~1936 2100s – 235 engine aftermarket manual choke 1953~1956 2101s – 235 engine aftermarket auto choke 1953~1956 2104s – 261 engine aftermarket (number assigned, no production) 3055s – aftermarket (number assigned, no production) 3211s – 235 engine aftermarket 1957~1962 3379s – 153 engine original equipment manual trans 1962~1966 3402s – 153 engine original equipment auto trans 1962~1966 3711s – 194 engine aftermarket 1962 3760s – 230 engine (number assigned, no production) 3770s – 230 engine (taxi) original equipment auto transmission 1964~1965 3771s – 230 engine (taxi) original equipment manual trans 1964~1965 3772s – 194 engine auto transmission (number assigned, no production) 1964 3773s – 194 engine manual trans (number assigned, no production) 1964 3821s – 194 engine (van) original equipment 1964 3946s – 194 engine aftermarket 1964~1965 3946s – 230 engine aftermarket 1964~1965 3975s – 230 engine (van) original equipment manual trans 1965 3976s – 230 engine (van) original equipment auto trans 1965 4043s – 194 engine (van) original equipment manual trans 1966 4043s – 230 engine (van) original equipment manual trans 1966 4044s – 194 engine (van) original equipment auto trans 1966 4044s – 230 engine (van) original equipment auto trans 1966 4048s – 230 engine (van) aftermarket experimental 1963~1966 4072s – 194 engine original equipment auto trans CALIF smog 1966 4072s – 230 engine original equipment auto trans CALIF smog 1966 4073s – 194 engine original equipment manual trans CALIF smog 1966 4073s – 230 engine original equipment manual trans CALIF smog 1966 4080s – 194 engine original equipment (pass) auto trans CALIF smog 1966 4080s – 230 engine original equipment (pass) auto trans CALIF smog 1966 4080s – 250 engine original equipment (pass) auto trans CALIF smog 1966 4085s – 230 engine original equipment (truck) manual trans CALIF smog 1966 4085s – 250 engine original equipment (truck) manual trans CALIF smog 1966 4086s – 230 engine original equipment (truck) auto trans CALIF smog 1966 4086s – 250 engine original equipment (truck) auto trans CALIF smog 1966 4145s – 194 engine original equipment (truck) manual trans 1965~1966 4145s – 230 engine original equipment (truck) manual trans 1965~1966 4202s – 250 engine (taxi) original equipment auto trans 1966 4203s – 250 engine (taxi) original equipment manual trans 1966 4278s – (export to India) 4339s – 194 engine aftermarket 1963~1967 4339s – 230 engine aftermarket 1963~1967 4339s – 250 engine aftermarket 1963~1967 4367s – 230 engine original equipment manual trans CALIF smog 1967 4367s – 250 engine original equipment manual trans CALIF smog 1967 4368s – 194 engine original equipment auto trans CALIF smog 1967 4368s – 230 engine original equipment auto trans CALIF smog 1967 4368s – 250 engine original equipment auto trans CALIF smog 1967 4369s – 230 engine original equipment (truck) manual trans CALIF smog 1967 4369s – 250 engine original equipment (truck) manual trans CALIF smog 1967 4370s – 230 engine original equipment (truck) auto trans CALIF smog 1967 4370s – 250 engine original equipment (truck) auto trans CALIF smog 1967 4371s – 230 engine original equipment (truck) manual trans CALIF smog 1967 4371s – 250 engine original equipment (truck) manual trans CALIF smog 1967 4371s – 292 engine original equipment (truck) manual trans CALIF smog 1967 4372s – 250 engine original equipment (truck) auto trans CALIF smog 1967 4373s – 153 engine aftermarket manual trans 1963~1967 4374s – 153 engine aftermarket auto trans 1963~1967 4375s – 230 engine original equipment (truck) manual trans 1967 4375s – 250 engine original equipment (truck) manual trans 1967 4376s – 230 engine original equipment (truck) auto trans 1967 4376s – 250 engine original equipment (truck) auto trans 1967 4377s – 250 engine original equipment (taxi) manual trans CALIF smog 1967 4378s – 250 engine original equipment (taxi) auto trans CALIF smog 1967 4387s – 194 engine original equipment (truck) manual trans CALIF smog 1967 4480s – 230 engine aftermarket (all Federal) 1963~1967 4480s – 250 engine aftermarket (all Federal) 1963~1967 4492s – 194 engine aftermarket 1962 6213s – number assigned no production DADS50 YouTube 1950 chevy 3100

Re: Carburetor question Flyer #919832 02/14/2013 2:29 PM
Joined: Jan 2013 Posts: 33 Cincinnati, OH F Flyer Wrench Fetcher
Flyer Wrench Fetcher F Joined: Jan 2013 Posts: 33 Cincinnati, OH	Excellent! Thank you for this info!

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