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Wayne Selway
| | | | Joined: Apr 2012 Posts: 38 Wrench Fetcher | Wrench Fetcher Joined: Apr 2012 Posts: 38 | You wouldn't happen to know what position the #1 piston should be in would you?
Wayne Selway
| | | | Joined: Apr 2012 Posts: 38 Wrench Fetcher | Wrench Fetcher Joined: Apr 2012 Posts: 38 | When I set the the rocker arm assembly on the head even with all of the adjusting nuts backed all the out the rocker arm posts do not set all of the way down on the head I would need to force them down. Not sure why this happens.
Wayne Selway
| | | | Joined: Apr 2012 Posts: 135 Shop Shark | Shop Shark Joined: Apr 2012 Posts: 135 | Has the head you are using been milled, And if so, how much?
| | | | Joined: Sep 2001 Posts: 29,262 Bubba - Curmudgeon | Bubba - Curmudgeon Joined: Sep 2001 Posts: 29,262 | Many of the valves will be pushed open/down as you tighten down the rocker arm posts's bolts. Is that what you are referring to?
| | | | Joined: Apr 2012 Posts: 38 Wrench Fetcher | Wrench Fetcher Joined: Apr 2012 Posts: 38 | Yes just one or two, I believe it depends on which cylinder is TDC. It was milled but I didn't ask how much.
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| | | | Joined: Nov 2006 Posts: 2,544 Shop Shark | Shop Shark Joined: Nov 2006 Posts: 2,544 | When you tighten the bolts for the rocker arm shaft turn each bolt a few turns and move to the next one. Take your time. | | | | Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 43 'Bolter | 'Bolter Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 43 | How much do I torque the bolts that hold the rocker arm assembly to the head? I took the assembly off for cleaning. | | | | Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 43 'Bolter | 'Bolter Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 43 | | | | | Joined: Sep 2001 Posts: 29,262 Bubba - Curmudgeon | Bubba - Curmudgeon Joined: Sep 2001 Posts: 29,262 | | | | | Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 28,674 Kettle Custodian (pot stirrer) | Kettle Custodian (pot stirrer) Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 28,674 | Normal torque for a 3/8-16 grade 5 bolt is usually 35 ft/lbs. Due to the position of the camshaft lobes it's not uncommon for a few valves to be pushed open a little as the rocker stands are tightened. Be sure all the pushrods are seated in the proper relationship on both ends. You can also snug the bolts a little and turn the engine to a different position to minimize the amount of strain on the rocker shafts as you tighten them down. Jerry
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| | | | Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 43 'Bolter | 'Bolter Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 43 | I have a reprint of the 1937 shop manual but couldn't find the torque specs for the rocker arm bolts. Last Dec. after following the procedures for bringing an engine back to life, I started it and ran it for about 10 seconds, it sounded ok. It had not been run since being driven into a barn in 2010 after many years of farm use. Since Dec. I have pulled the oil pan and cleaned out an inch and a half of semi hardened sludge from the sump, cleaned out the plumbing in the bottom of the pan with parts cleaner, then ran hot water through the plumbing, everything seemed to be spraying at the same angle, then I blew air through it to get all the water out. Cleaned the oil pump and the screen and put the pan back on. Now I'm cleaning the rocker assembly and the top of the head, everything is coated with a layer of crud the consistency of thick gritty grease. I discovered that one pushrod, the one on the far end on cyl 6 pulls right out, the rest are held in place by their retainers. Next step is to pull the side cover and clean everything and see what is going on with that pushrod. In hindsight I think I should have started the cleaning at the top end and worked my way down.
It has been a long time since I've worked on an engine. Besides keeping track of each part and where it goes for reassembly are there any pointers I should be aware of? I have confidence I can do this with Stovebolters looking over my shoulder. | | | | Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 28,674 Kettle Custodian (pot stirrer) | Kettle Custodian (pot stirrer) Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 28,674 | If you choose to remove the valve lifters from their bores for cleaning, be sure to replace them in the same holes they came from. Each lifter and the camshaft lobe it runs against have a unique wear pattern that does not need to be disturbed. Jerry
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| | | | Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 1,915 'Bolter | 'Bolter Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 1,915 | The alternative is to remove all of the adjusters from the rocker arms. Now the stands can be bolted down without resistance, it just takes longer to re-install the adjusters.
If you have removed the rockers from the shafts, pay particular attention to the assembly order. The rockers are very different, 4 sets of 3 identical rockers as follows: 3 each 8° left-handed offset intake rockers 3 each 8° right-handed offset intake rockers 3 each 1° left-handed (almost straight) exhaust rockers 3 each 1° right-handed (almost straight) exhaust rockers | | |
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