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We transplanted a running 235 from a 'Burb into our '51 GMC project, and now we can't get it to start.
All engine accessories were removed when lifting, and I suspect that's the root of the problem. But it appears that distributor, carb, etc are all installed correctly.
The engine turns over well, and sometimes when adjusting the timing seems to want to start, but does not. Occassional backfire.
New quality battery cables. Ground strap hooked up.
Yesterday a buddy and I replaced the coil, regapped the points, checked the firing order and timing, and confirmed spark.
We did not replace the ignition resistor, but when installed or not there was no difference.
Still, no fire. We are still just pouring a little gas into the carb to start her.
Stumped! Thanks for any ideas. Dickson
1950 Chevy 3100 short bed 1951 GMC 3/4 ton long bed | | | | | Joined: Sep 2001 Posts: 29,269 Bubba - Curmudgeon | | Bubba - Curmudgeon Joined: Sep 2001 Posts: 29,269 | Did you rotate the engine after the distributor was removed?
Did you rotate the shaft in the distributor while it was out?
| | | | | Joined: Nov 2005 Posts: 6,100 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Nov 2005 Posts: 6,100 | Hy Dickson, it sounds to me like the timing is out, tcledermans questions are good ones. I would verify the timing of number one cylinder with the finger over the spark plug hole method. Two other questions, how long has it been since this engine ran, and how long before that did it have a tune-up? I have seen many "running" engines swapped that would not start when they were installed in their "new" vehicle, many of those engines needed new spark plugs. When the distributor was re-installed did it go all the way in to engage the oil pump drive? A bad condensor can cause all kinds of ignition problems, maybe a full tune-up is in order, hope that helps. | | | | | Joined: Oct 2011 Posts: 206 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: Oct 2011 Posts: 206 | it ran like five weeks ago when we pulled it out of my ride. it ran great, it might have gotten turned ,has new condenser not touching wall, new points, old ballest,
I just dropped the distributer back in after we set the motor in, and then assumed that when the ball and pointer matched ,and the roter was pointing to the #1 spark plug I was at top dead, | | | | | Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 2,557 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 2,557 | You may have dropped it in 180* out.
Tim 1951 3100 Chevrolet1951 Chevrolet Suburban CarryallImage"A house is built with boards and beams. A home is built with love and dreams." "Look deep before you leap !!!" / "Everything is Everything" "If I say a mouse can pull a house, hitch him up"
| | | | | Joined: Aug 2004 Posts: 1,418 ODSS Lawman | | ODSS Lawman Joined: Aug 2004 Posts: 1,418 | I agree with Tim. Set the engine at TDC and redo your timing....
SWEET Sergeant At Arms: Old Dominion Stovebolt Society BUNS?!?!?!Where we're going, we don't need no buns.....1950 GMC 450 1951 Chevy 1/2-TonThe GreenMachineIn the Stovebolt Gallery | | | | | Joined: Dec 2004 Posts: 1,897 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: Dec 2004 Posts: 1,897 | It's an Omen! That GMC is rejecting the shorter chevy motor. Put a long motor back in there!
All kidding aside it really sounds like a timing issue. Loosen the distributor and turn it both clockwise and counter clockwise till you find a sweet spot for it to start. | | | | | Joined: Oct 2011 Posts: 206 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: Oct 2011 Posts: 206 | | | | | | Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 2,557 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 2,557 | That's an honest mistake,happens a lot. Drew,are you helping Dickson ?
Tim 1951 3100 Chevrolet1951 Chevrolet Suburban CarryallImage"A house is built with boards and beams. A home is built with love and dreams." "Look deep before you leap !!!" / "Everything is Everything" "If I say a mouse can pull a house, hitch him up"
| | | | | Joined: May 2005 Posts: 487 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: May 2005 Posts: 487 | It seems like it happens to me every time I install a distributor. One time recently, I thought to myself "I always get this backwards, maybe I should swap it 180 now, and avoid the problem"
Yeah, you guessed right. It was still 180 out.
regards, Leon | | | | | Joined: Oct 2011 Posts: 206 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: Oct 2011 Posts: 206 | yeah dickson and I transplanted my engine into his truck but its one day a week, at a time, ( we only get to wrench together on sundays)
We pulled the 235 running out of my burb and dropped it in his 51 I guess the dizzy was off 180'. I messed with it a week ago for like six hours wondering why it wouldn't fire, i kept adjusting points, then we got a new set, and I adjusted those the rest of the day.lol
Last edited by drew_vigil; 12/10/2012 7:46 AM.
| | | | | Joined: Oct 2012 Posts: 62 Wrench Fetcher | | Wrench Fetcher Joined: Oct 2012 Posts: 62 | Actually, Drew is helping me. I bought his engine & help in the transplant.
Lacking any other ideas, we pulled the distributor and rotated it 180. I figured it was easy enough to reverse if it did not work.
And she fired!
The GMC truck is indeed rejecting the 235, as the starter did not fully retract from the flywheel. Thus, when the engine ran through all the gas we'd put in the carb it messed up the starter. Easy enough to get another....
Thanks for the help guys! Dickson
1950 Chevy 3100 short bed 1951 GMC 3/4 ton long bed | | | | | Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 1,847 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 1,847 | get some of that anti-rejection stuff they use when they transplant kidneys, and put it in the oil. Quick!!! | | |
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