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#89350 02/17/2004 7:59 PM | Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 3 Junior Member | | Junior Member Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 3 | I'm new to this scene and I need all the help I can get. Can someone tell me what the difference between 6 volt vs. 12 volt is? I currently have a 1950 Chevy Pickup and its a 6 volt. Do I need to change it to 12 volt? What are the advantages and disadvantages of having 12 volt and what is it really used for? | | |
#89351 02/17/2004 8:18 PM | Joined: Mar 2003 Posts: 314 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Mar 2003 Posts: 314 | Get ready for an avalance of opinions on this one. My opinion, if everything works, ie starter, generator, lights etc, why change anything? A six volt system, well maintained, will work just fine. Downside to a six volt system? Hard to find batterys, and parts to starter and generator. Not impossible, but sometimes difficult. Ok, everybody, join in!  | | |
#89352 02/17/2004 10:17 PM | Joined: Jan 2000 Posts: 1,586 Extreme Gabster | | Extreme Gabster Joined: Jan 2000 Posts: 1,586 | I agree, if it works and the truck is just for tooling around town, it'll be fine for now.Better to spend your time making sure all the wiring connections, grounds and bulb sockets are in good shape A 12 volt system does have advantages, brighter light options,a loud CD player,better cold weather starting, and so on. | | |
#89353 02/17/2004 10:20 PM | Joined: Mar 2002 Posts: 9,115 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Mar 2002 Posts: 9,115 | 1950ChevyGirl, welcome to the Stovebolt. You will find many opinions on 6V vs 12 V. A 6 V system in good condition works just fine. However, because the voltage is half that of the 12 V, the system relies on heavier current flow. What this means is that poor battery connections and starter connections cause problems sooner with a 6 V system. When I get mine on the road someday, I intend to be running the 6 v system. | | |
#89354 02/18/2004 1:17 AM | Joined: Mar 2003 Posts: 314 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Mar 2003 Posts: 314 | Just to mix it up a bit, I run an 8 volt battery in my GMC. Kinda get the best of both worlds, starter spins like it is on "meth", bulbs burn like a mini super nova (accelerated bulb life)and when people see four battery caps they kinda go WTF! | | |
#89355 02/18/2004 5:08 AM | Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 86 Member | | Member Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 86 | dunfire, I hear what you are saying. My friend runs a 8 folt battery in his 50 and it works great. I am thinking about doing the same. The 8 volt batterys were mainly for tractors. | | |
#89356 02/18/2004 7:32 PM | Joined: Jun 2000 Posts: 2,773 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Jun 2000 Posts: 2,773 | I have to agree with not changing until something breaks. The change isn't that hard or expensive. You will need a 12 volt battery, all new light bulbs, resistors for the heater fan, gas gauge and radio (if you have one). Also needed is either a generator/regulator or alternator, depending on how stock you want your setup to look like. If you go with an alternator, you can buy one at a local parts store, make some modification to the existing brackets and wire it in. Also recommended is a diode kit for the alternator and a booklet written by Randy from Fifth Ave Auto, Clay Center, KS. He's the moderator of this forum.
Fred 52 3600 69 C-10
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#89357 02/19/2004 4:00 AM | Joined: Dec 2002 Posts: 50 Wrench Fetcher | | Wrench Fetcher Joined: Dec 2002 Posts: 50 | 1950ChevyGirl, I am with dunfire put in the 8v battery and find out all you can so when the time comes to switch to 12v you will be able to do with less problems. Greg
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#89358 02/19/2004 5:52 AM | Joined: Apr 2002 Posts: 1,571 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: Apr 2002 Posts: 1,571 | All GMC were positive ground until the 12v change in mid-'55. | | |
#89359 02/19/2004 11:42 AM | Joined: Mar 2003 Posts: 314 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Mar 2003 Posts: 314 | My charging system is stock and it charges my battery at about 15 to 20 amps. Also my system is a negative ground. I believe GMC went to a positive ground system in the 40's. Alot of larger trucks were positive ground, like Mack, were positive ground up into the 70's. I have no idea as to why! | | |
#89360 02/19/2004 6:55 PM | Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 3 Junior Member | | Junior Member Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 3 | Thank you all for your replies now my next question is I'mm guessing that If I install a radio system that isn't stock I'm going to have to go with 12 volt, correct? | | |
#89361 02/19/2004 7:00 PM | Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 264 Member | | Member Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 264 | Radio Shack used to make an inverter to generate 12V from 6V. I don't know if they are still available. | | |
#89362 02/20/2004 3:28 AM | Joined: Aug 2000 Posts: 197 Member | | Member Joined: Aug 2000 Posts: 197 | I don't think that Radio shack still sells that inverter. However, there are a LOT of DC-DC converters on the new and surplus market that may work for your application. Marlin P. Jones www.mpja.com has a 5V to 12V 1 amp DC-DC convertor for $10 (pn 11666-ps). You would have to contact MPJA to see if it would run on 6+VDC. If not, use a linear regulator LM7805 to drop your 6V to 5V. The other caveat is that your radio has to pull 1 amp or less. This is just one example. Do some searching and you will turn up more options.
Jason
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#89363 02/20/2004 4:42 AM | Joined: Jan 2002 Posts: 2,839 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Jan 2002 Posts: 2,839 | The only reason I went from 6 to 12 was due to the brightness of the head and tail lights at night time. Lets not forget the importance of having a real bright spotlight, while searching for them coons in the bushes.
Nevertheless, I wanted to be seen. Since I wasn't trying to keep the truck totally original, I didn't care about keeping the electrical original. Living in a busy metropolis, safety and security was of most importance to me.
Craig My '50 Chevy 3100 5 window, '62-235cu, 3:55 rear My truck ....... Respect The Rust If I'm not working on my truck, '65 m00stang or VW camper, I'm fishing with the wife or smoking Salmon.
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#89364 02/20/2004 4:47 AM | Joined: May 2001 Posts: 115 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: May 2001 Posts: 115 | I see you found the stovebolt page. Glad you are here. These guys will be able to answer anything you need. My vote is to go 12 volt. It is simple and modern radios etc.. will work. And alot easier to jump start on the side of the road it if its ever dead, from another 12 volt. I got a ticket a few years back for a 6 volt tailight that was not bright enough.
Brian D
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#89365 02/26/2004 1:13 AM | Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 29,770 Kettle Custodian (pot stirrer) | | Kettle Custodian (pot stirrer) Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 29,770 | From somebody who grew up with 6-volt systems, ditto on the clean, tight commections! I cranked an 11:1 compression flathead V8 (blue oval) engine with 6 volts for a lot of years, and it was a hassle!
The 8-volt system will create more problems than it solves, especially if the voltage regulator is adjusted to keep it charged properly. It takes 9.5 volts to keep an 8 volt up, and that amount of voltage burns out lights, and is rough on generators. I'm a 45-year veteran of auto electrical system service, and the family shop was the best electrical service center in Nashville, Tennessee in the 50's and 60's. We wouldn't touch an 8-volt system with a 10-foot pole! Jerry
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