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#87359 03/10/2003 4:43 AM
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my shows empty at all times, I did replace the sending unit awhile back, did not help, is there a way that I can check to see if any current is going to the sending unit without me having to get under the dash? I did also try to use a simple light bulb/ground but did not get the light to light up, I really wasn't sure if enough would show by this method anyway. this runtz that bolters have spoken about, is it attached to the fuel gauge/what does it look like? guess you can tell that I have no idea about what Iam doing, any help would be appreciated.....Fred


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Test for continuity between the terminals to see if the tiny coil resistor is broken. You should see the needle twitch with as little a 1.5V, but never put more than 6V through it or you'll melt the resistor. Runtz-style voltage reducers go on the + terminal for 12V conversions to prevent this.

Dropping the gauge can also break the internal resistor. :rolleyes: I managed to repair mine by doing microsurgery with a soldering iron


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#87361 03/10/2003 4:06 PM
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The truck does have the 12 volt conversion, I have own the truck for about 6yrs and the gauge had always been broken,everything else works great...thanks,,,,,Fred


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Joker,
For the first 9 years I had my recent rig, my gauge rested at empty. Shortly after I did the 12v conversion I decided it (the gauge) needs to come alive, but learned that first I needed to find a resistor since the gauge cannot tolerate 12v. The infamous Runtz was highly recommended. It is a very small circuit board 1/2" x 1 3/4" with a bolted connector on one end (which you attach your original hot lead that was originally feeding the gauge), a hole on the other end which you connect to the hot post of your gauge, and finally a black wire which you ground.

Unless the gauge is really broken due to 12 volts feeding it, etc, and if it still reads E after you connect a Runtz, I would guess that it's simply a bad grounding issue. I spent a vast amount of time trouble shooting my situation, (removing sending unit, test, test ,test) and found that I had to go back to make sure that the entire circuitry between the sending unit and the gauge had solid connection.

Now it works.


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My Runtz had no grounding wire.


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and yours will work, I will probable find a loose wire so where, it probably had the right stuff,just never did get into going under the dash,oh, if I was only 40 yrs younger, no I take that back, would not want to go thru some of the yrs again, may be I might just HACK this baby up some more and put an after martket SW in it.later got to go eat one of those big juicy tex hamburgers...Fred


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On the subject of proper ground, I discovered that even with the gauges bolted to the steel dash plate I would see the gauges and dash lights work with random intermittence. I ended up running a dedicated ground from one gauge cluster to the other, then to the firewall; that finally chased off the gremlins and got everything working at the same time.


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Speaking of the Fuel Gauge, my gauge drops every time the turn signal goes on or the headlights come on. Afterwards it goes back to its normal position, but I was wondering if anybody has had this problem?
I just stuck in a new Alternator and voltage regulator to try and correct the problem.

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Fred, you might want to tip your seat up and check the ground(s) for the sending unit at the tank. I seem to remember seeing somewhere a fella had a similar problem caused by a poor ground at the tank. This was due to the insulating pads under the tank, paint under ground connections, etc. You might wish to try running a ground wire directly from the sender to a clean chassis ground. Just my $.02.

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P.S. If you're really serious about the Stewart Warner gas gauge (and feel like spending some more dough on Redryder) I think they make a replacement set designed for the AD's-5" diameter speedo and combo gauge with oil/temp/volts(12V) and fuel, all dressed up in that sweet black face, white numbers with chrome ring classic style. Just another $.02...at this rate, I'm goin' broke! grin


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