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on the Internet for over 30 years! and not clogged down with Ads! Again, thanks! | | | | Joined: Jun 2012 Posts: 33 New Guy | | New Guy Joined: Jun 2012 Posts: 33 | Forgive me for being over excited, but since purchasing my GMC 350 but not actually having it moved or getting to crawl around it much yet, I am speculating and collecting Data as best I can. I was not able to open the hood and thus have no idea what I am actually Going to find under there, but my Data tag specifies it is (was) a 95 HP engine.
Standard engine for this model was a 248 ( I think there were options ? ) does this HP correspond to a 248? ( the only data I can find in print for the 248 is "SEMA" standards and calls out about 32 hp ) I beleive we are talking about a 1948 model BTW in a 350 series truck.
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| | | | | Joined: Apr 2001 Posts: 268 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: Apr 2001 Posts: 268 | If the serial plate is still on the door post, it may tell you the HP rating for the original engine. The first 3 numbers on the engine serial number are the CID of the engine. S/Ns are on flat surface just behind the distributor.
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1948 GMC FC101 1/2t Pickup w/270 and SM420 1948 GMC FC253 1t Factory 80"x9' Flatbed Dually 1948 Chevy COE 2 Ton 8'x15' Flatbed 1950 GMC 354-24 2 Ton 8'X12' Flatbed w/Dump Hoist 1953 GMC 454-30 3 Ton 8'x14' Flatbed w/Dump Hoist 1953 GMC 454-30 3 Ton Cab and Chassis 1942 Clarkator 6 MILL-44 Heavy Aircraft Tug 1942 Ford (9N) Moto Tug with 1/2 yard Loader 1947 Oliver OC3 HG-42 Tract-Crawler Bull Dozier w/6' Blade
| | | | | Joined: Jun 2012 Posts: 33 New Guy | | New Guy Joined: Jun 2012 Posts: 33 | Thank you for the response. The truck is NOT at my place and I have never opened the hood... so the numbers on the engine are not available to me. The plate in the door frame which i took a Picture of DOES specify a HP rating... a Rating of 95... thus the question....
Does 95 HP = 248 ci?
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| | | | | Joined: Mar 2012 Posts: 24 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Mar 2012 Posts: 24 | My 1954 Motor's Truck Manual show the only GMC engine at 95hp is the 228 from 1946-1954.
However, my 1948 FC302 has a 248 which the Motor's manual rates at 100hp and the tag on the door jamb says 89.5 hp so I really don't know what to believe!
Looking closer, the Motor's manual lists Maximum Brake H.P., my door tag is Certified NET HP, at slightly different RPMs, I'm not sure of the difference.
Last edited by DP; 06/28/2012 4:45 PM.
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| | | | | Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 1,107 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 1,107 | depending on whats on the back of it and what your going to be hauling it will be a lead sled, the only help with be the two speed rear, providing it's still operable. | | | | | Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 2,733 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 2,733 | Simply two different methods of determining the power for taxable point of view and/or an SAE rating and/or the advertising perspective. I guess I don't see why it matters so much. Why don't you check over at OldGMCTrucks.coma and see what they have to say.
| | | | | Joined: Apr 2001 Posts: 268 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: Apr 2001 Posts: 268 | I have noted several subtle differences between trucks manufactured/assembled in Pontiac Mich. or Fremont Calif.
Could this be an issue as to whether or not and how the serial plates differ. I.e. HP rating and GVW...?
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1948 GMC FC101 1/2t Pickup w/270 and SM420 1948 GMC FC253 1t Factory 80"x9' Flatbed Dually 1948 Chevy COE 2 Ton 8'x15' Flatbed 1950 GMC 354-24 2 Ton 8'X12' Flatbed w/Dump Hoist 1953 GMC 454-30 3 Ton 8'x14' Flatbed w/Dump Hoist 1953 GMC 454-30 3 Ton Cab and Chassis 1942 Clarkator 6 MILL-44 Heavy Aircraft Tug 1942 Ford (9N) Moto Tug with 1/2 yard Loader 1947 Oliver OC3 HG-42 Tract-Crawler Bull Dozier w/6' Blade
| | | | | Joined: Jun 2012 Posts: 33 New Guy | | New Guy Joined: Jun 2012 Posts: 33 | I was just trying to confirm it was a 270, with the only information I had available to me at the time. I don't care what the numbers mean or what the number is... I was just curious if it was a number that corresponded to the 270.... Although I believe the 270 was the only option in that particular truck....
Like I said I am not sure what I will find IN the truck currently, the former owner used to do a lot of mil Surp stuff... so It could be a 302 ... Guess I need to make room for it and go pick it up.
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| | | | | Joined: Apr 2001 Posts: 268 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: Apr 2001 Posts: 268 | According to "OldGMCTrucks" Truck Model Identification ALL "35x" came with a 248 CID engine from 1947 through 1954. No other options are listed. The still does not mean someone along the way did not replace the engine with something larger. http://www.oldgmctrucks.com/page0191.html[x denotes numbers 1 thru 5] Good Luck and Happy Motoring 
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1948 GMC FC101 1/2t Pickup w/270 and SM420 1948 GMC FC253 1t Factory 80"x9' Flatbed Dually 1948 Chevy COE 2 Ton 8'x15' Flatbed 1950 GMC 354-24 2 Ton 8'X12' Flatbed w/Dump Hoist 1953 GMC 454-30 3 Ton 8'x14' Flatbed w/Dump Hoist 1953 GMC 454-30 3 Ton Cab and Chassis 1942 Clarkator 6 MILL-44 Heavy Aircraft Tug 1942 Ford (9N) Moto Tug with 1/2 yard Loader 1947 Oliver OC3 HG-42 Tract-Crawler Bull Dozier w/6' Blade
| | | | | Joined: Apr 2001 Posts: 268 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: Apr 2001 Posts: 268 | Not all 2 tons came with 2 speed rear axles.
It was not until 1954 that F35x-27 had a 270.
302s were not available until 1952 in the 450 and up series.
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1948 GMC FC101 1/2t Pickup w/270 and SM420 1948 GMC FC253 1t Factory 80"x9' Flatbed Dually 1948 Chevy COE 2 Ton 8'x15' Flatbed 1950 GMC 354-24 2 Ton 8'X12' Flatbed w/Dump Hoist 1953 GMC 454-30 3 Ton 8'x14' Flatbed w/Dump Hoist 1953 GMC 454-30 3 Ton Cab and Chassis 1942 Clarkator 6 MILL-44 Heavy Aircraft Tug 1942 Ford (9N) Moto Tug with 1/2 yard Loader 1947 Oliver OC3 HG-42 Tract-Crawler Bull Dozier w/6' Blade
| | | | | Joined: Jun 2012 Posts: 33 New Guy | | New Guy Joined: Jun 2012 Posts: 33 | Yeah, 248.... thats what I started this thread with, Dunno why I said 270 lastnight. anyway... I still dont know what is actually in it, as it is still waiting on 3 wheels and a ride to my shop.... other things have taken priority. the only reason I mention a 302, is becuase of all the De-mill stuff the PO used to haul ( the truck was used to move old Millitary "quanset" buildings bought at auction), Old Mil trucks are known to have 302's.... could be the PO got a hold of one...... speculation and VERY wishful thinking is all.
in all I retract the question, as the only possible Stock engine is a 248.... when I posted I thought there were options and I was trying to guess from the only available info.
it either has a 248 (that it would have come with) or it doesn't, I will know soon enough I guess.
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| | | | | Joined: Sep 2001 Posts: 29,269 Bubba - Curmudgeon | | Bubba - Curmudgeon Joined: Sep 2001 Posts: 29,269 | Dan,
Your question is not unreasonable. I have a 1954/55 GMC 350 COE and it has a replacement 270 engine (and, I think it had an optional 270 as the original engine).
Your truck might easily have had a replacement over the years.
Good luck on finding it has a 302 - that would be nice. The 270 is also a fine engine (and, there is nothing wrong about a 248 - just less power).
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