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#84936 05/23/2005 10:02 AM | Joined: Sep 2004 Posts: 93 Member | | Member Joined: Sep 2004 Posts: 93 | Hi all, what's going on here? I have a tilt column with the conventional start switch on the column. In the "start position" the starter wants to stay engaged after the switch is released. A local mechanic said to replace the ignition switch which I did and the problem was still there. Another guy said to replace the key tumbler which I did not do. Instead, I figured I would fix the problem by installing a separate push button start switch in the dash. Bought a brand new shiny push button switch and installed it. Turned ignition switch on, pushed starter button, engine turns over, released starter button and engine continues to turn over. Am I getting some electrical feedback through the circuit or what? Any ideas? Thanks, Don | | |
#84937 05/23/2005 1:36 PM | Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 29,749 Kettle Custodian (pot stirrer) | | Kettle Custodian (pot stirrer) Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 29,749 | If the engine has a lot of resistance to turning, the load on the starter armature can prevent the solenoid spring from disengaging the starter drive unless the engine starts and unloads the gear. Also, a broken or missing return spring in the solenoid can cause the same problem.
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#84938 05/23/2005 4:41 PM | Joined: May 2001 Posts: 709 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: May 2001 Posts: 709 | I'm with Hotrod, sounds like the solenoid.
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#84939 05/23/2005 10:56 PM | Joined: Jun 2004 Posts: 8,597 Riding in the Passing Lane | | Riding in the Passing Lane Joined: Jun 2004 Posts: 8,597 | Sometimes it is caused by an internal short in the starter. The only way iv,e been able to fix one doing that is to replace the starter.
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#84940 05/24/2005 10:22 AM | Joined: Sep 2004 Posts: 93 Member | | Member Joined: Sep 2004 Posts: 93 | Hi guys, thanks for the replies. I was thinking it might be the solenoid or starter and didn't have anything to do with the wiring or switch. The starter is one of those "mini" hi-torque ones and I'm not sure about buying a new solenoid so will probably have to replace the whole unit. Don | | |
#84941 06/02/2005 7:33 AM | Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 1,682 Extreme Gabster | | Extreme Gabster Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 1,682 | I'd pull the starter and hook it up direct to a battery and see what happens.
If the gear pops out when you power it, and retracts when power is removed, then your starter is probably not the problem.
I serously doubt your switch would have anything to do with the selonoid engaging or disengaging the gear from the flywheel.
an idea is only stupid if you think about it rationally.
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#84942 06/02/2005 12:06 PM | Joined: Sep 2004 Posts: 93 Member | | Member Joined: Sep 2004 Posts: 93 | I replaced the starter and now she works fine. Too bad I spent the time and money replacing the other stuff. I should have asked you guys first. I do like my push button start switch though.
Thanks again for the advice. Don | | |
#84943 06/02/2005 2:57 PM | Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 1,682 Extreme Gabster | | Extreme Gabster Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 1,682 | Another story in the Stovebolt Garage with a happy ending!
In both my trucks, during the "getting it started the first time" phase i've suspected I had a bad starter.. and both times I was wrong!
A fella can spend alot of time and money chasing down things that COULD be wrong.. in my situation, having a wife that gives me the hairy eyeball every time I say, "Well.. looks like I need a new <insert expensive sounding part here>" keeps me looking and checking different things before I make the drive to the autoparts store.
Congratulations on getting her running!
an idea is only stupid if you think about it rationally.
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