The Stovebolt Site Forums The Parking Lot Big Bolts Discussion 19.5" wheels and fitment

Hi guys. There has been lots of discussion on wheels. I've tried searching the threads regarding the Accuride 27775 and 29667 to see if anyone actually uses them. My specific need here is to know if anyone has these on a 1 1/2 ton. There were questions regarding fitment over the brake drums. If anyone uses them will you post a link to some pics? That would be very helpfull.

Thanks all. Fred.

Well, I asked our maintenance guy at work about these 19.5" wheels because they have some older stepvans and he told me today they have them. So he is going to let me borrow one to see if they fit over the drums. Should have some answers this week on the subject. Pics too if anyone is interested.

I got the wheel home tonight and using 2 drums I have in the garage here are some pics.

Here is the wheel:
[IMG]http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m290/fclaridge/195Wheel1.jpg[/IMG]

The wheel is installed over the front hub and drum brake. Looks like there is plenty of room here:
[IMG]http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m290/fclaridge/195Wheel4.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m290/fclaridge/195Wheel5.jpg[/IMG]
Here are front and rear angles of the rear drum with the wheel:
[IMG]http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m290/fclaridge/195Wheel3.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m290/fclaridge/195Wheel7.jpg[/IMG]

So I think I am going to call this a success and be on the lookout for some of these wheels and try them out with tires on the bus. I'll keep the test wheel for a few days so when I can get outside when it's not raining and slip it on to see what the size ratio is for the bus I can see if it is what I truly want.

Fred,
I am building a 57 cabover and the chassis I am using came with 19.5s. Since the bolt pattern from the new chassis matched the original, I bolted one on and it looked tiny. I searched for some bigger tires and there are really no tall 19.5 tires. 8r-19.5 is the tallest and it is about 34". I ended up with 9r22.5 tires (38")so it looked correct. Just something to think about. I would hate to see you get new wheels and tires and find out they did not look right. I have seen lost of bigger old trucks with smaller tires and they just look funny to me.

Hi buggy5872, that's actually one of the reasons I want the smaller wheels. To get the bus shorter and to be able to lower it some. I think by doing that it may give me the look I am working for. I'll know more after I get the wheel mounted on the bus. I'll try to do thast this week or Saturday.

Fred, I have them (27775) on my 49 6400 2 ton, they work fine. No problem with the brake drum. I also have 6 for sale on the swap forum.

Hi genweld49, do you have pics of your truck with the 19.5s on it?

Here are some pics with the wheel mounted on the front axle and set at the correct height in which the bus would ride. The overall height of a 245/70/19.5 is 32" so I set the center of the wheel at 16".

[IMG]http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m290/fclaridge/photo-2.jpg[/IMG]

I wish I had a tire on there to set it down and see, but I really think this and then lowering the bus some will give it a good look.

You should find one with a tire and see, looks like it'll be a lot of fender opening for a small tire.

I have a 1950 4400 and the 19.5's did NOT fit over my rear drums. I ended up putting a disk brake Dana 70HD in the back of mine,, so there are years that these don't fit over the rear drum.

Fred,
I think Grigg is going to be right about the tire being too small for the opening. I might have a picture of it on mine or just in the opening. I'll check tonight and see if I have it. I would think our wheel openings are about the same size. If you were not so far away I would let you barrow one of my 19.5 with a tire. mine are 32" tall.

Fred,
here is a link to the pic of the 19.5 wheel and tire.
[IMG]http://inlinethumb22.webshots.com/48661/2660412890102329435S500x500Q85.jpg[/IMG]

buggy,

The link didn't work for me...

Mike B

Buggy,
Got the pic and it does look somewhat small. I think what I'll need to do is get a tire mounted on this wheel like Griggs suggests, put it on the bus and see what looks like. I can then measure how much room I'll have to allow it to be lowered to get a 1"-2" rake in it for a hotrod look. We'll see. Thanks for your pic and for your input guys.

fixed the pic link

I know a guy that's cutting the wheel opening off of a pick up fender and welding it to the LCF fender to get the "right look" with the smaller tires.

Mike B

I know someone who is doing it also. If it was lowered it might not look too bad. I believe big bolts should have big tires

I'm with you there!

While we're on the subject. fclaridge, don't you already have a set of 22.5's?
(Now if you don't intend to use them I'd be glad to make arrangements to come pick them up, probably in May or so??)

Grigg

Yes Grigg, I do. I even have them powder coated in silver metallic with fairly new tires, 4 of which still have the nubs on them.

[IMG]http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m290/fclaridge/CleanWheelandTire.jpg[/IMG]

Here is what the passenger side currently looks like:

[IMG]http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m290/fclaridge/GreenSide18.jpg[/IMG]

And a photoshopped version of what I want the color scheme to be.

[IMG]http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m290/fclaridge/BusDreams.jpg[/IMG]

After looking at the two profiles it appears the red and black version is squished, making it look taller than it really is? What do you guys think?
I still want to see what some 19.5s will look like, but maybe I'll have room to lower the front of the bus 2-3" with the 22.5s to give it the hot rod look I want like in this pic:

[IMG]http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m290/fclaridge/Windows3.jpg[/IMG]

Well, I found and am getting some 19.5s. I will get them tomorrow, all with 8R19.5 tires. That's 1.4 inches taller than a low pro tire, but 4.5" lower than the 9R22.5s on there now. I'll get them mounted on Saturday and see what they look like and post some pics. If I like them and they allow for me to do more with the ride height and rake I am looking for then I will surely be selling my 22.5s. More later...

Fred you should give consideration to your gear ratio as well the smaller tires will slow you down and cause your engine to have to rev higher. You will most likely find it necessary to change the rear end as well to run the shorter tires.

I guess I had that part in the back of my mind somewhere, but can deal with that at a later date. However, what options are there for changing out the gears? Are there gear sets available to do a quick swap? Or do I see another challenge in my future if I have to go that route?

It will most likely require changing the rear end to something more modern to get a gear ratio that is faster.

Ok, got the wheels on and here's a pic.

[IMG]http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m290/fclaridge/195Wheels3.jpg[/IMG]

Eventhough they are smaller than the 22.5s I think I like it. There is 6.5" in the rear from the top of the tire to the bottom of the wheelwell so I can go another 2" lower in back and 4" from the top of the tire to the bottom lip in the front, giving me at least 3-4" more to lower. That will fill the fender opening and give me a more hotrod look. I know this look isn't for everyone, but that's the look I am going for. Thoughts?

Not bad.
Does anyone have any photos they can point me toward with a AD big bolt truck with 19.5s and 8r19.5 or similar tires?

http://i1251.photobucket.com/albums/hh557/PJDRETIREE/Bully%20Restoration/IMG_1385.jpg


Accuride item number 29667PG wheels with Dynatrc ST990, 8R19.5 tires

fclaridge, I know this is an older post, but the subject is still revelant. In the pic you posted of the rear drum fitting inside the wheel on the first page of this thread, http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m290/fclaridge/195Wheel7.jpg is there enough clearance there between the drum and wheel to allow air flow over the drum to keep it cool or allow it to expand? Thanks.

I think there is. I'll get a pic tomorrow and post. I have the brakes installed and the drums and wheels painted so it will be easier to see the clearance.