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#77892 05/22/2007 3:58 PM
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On my 51, I have replaced all brake lines, wheel cylinders, etc. I have upgraded to a dual master cylinder and have just now got rid of all the leaks in the entire system. Now when I press the pedal, the front brake shoes move outward first, then a little while later (moving the pedal down more), only one of the rear shoes moves a little. I am not sure why this is happening because I have already bled the system. It almost appears that all the pushrods on the wheel cylinders are sunk in: http://good-times.webshots.com/photo/2918982290100058208WDpEUO , except for the one that works: http://good-times.webshots.com/photo/2898260760100058208iQqZBV . I think I pressed the pushrods into the wheel cylinder before I installed them so they wouldn't keep coming out. Could I have pushed them in too hard and damaged them or something? Or are they locked up somehow? Any ideas on what is happening?

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Hy Justin Squire, Try putting a pry bar or a large screwdriver against the shoe that moves easily, and then gently apply the brakes, the other shoe should move now as there is nothing holding it, hope that helps.

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I'd put on the drums & wheels & test drive it. All you're checking now is the return spring resistance. Doug

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Just a thought....dual drum/drum master cylinders normally have built-in residual valves that maintain a bit of pressure on each of the circuits. If you have it properly plumbed, the rear circuit should retain enough internal pressure (about 10 psi) so that the shoes release but are not pulled too far away from the drums. The front circuit normally holds about 2 psi.

I would:

1. Check to make sure you have the circuits plumbed properly.

2. REBLEED THE SYSTEM....gravity first..and then by conventional pumping into a catch can. Recharging a new system can use up the better part of a quart of fluid to get it completely bled.....and then adjust up shoes to take away any extra travel.
3. If you still are having issues I would add an inline 10 psi residual valve (Summit Racing $16.00) to the rear circuit.

BTW...you need to have your drums on when you are bleeding.

There is a bunch of good brake info at:

http://www.ecihotrodbrakes.com
http://www.mpbrakes.com
http://classicperform.com

Hope this helps.

Dave


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