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I'm working on a project this summer that requires a miniature side mounted light socket, either bayonet or screw in type would work as long as it had tabs that would allow it to be mounted from the side. Reason is limited space for a straight in shot.
I've been searching the net for a few weeks off and on and taint had any luck. Anyone know where I can get these from?? Here is an illustration that I got out of an old patent drawing: http://www.pbase.com/dennygraham/image/136924196

Denny Graham
Sandwich, IL

Denny,

That looks like the fitting that was found on some of the 47-55 cigar/cigarette lighters? The "reproduction" 6v/12v sockets do not seem to have them (I got a reproduction lighter socket years ago that had the light - but had the wrong-style knob on the button/element).

By the way, I assume you have seen these "NOS" 6v elements?

recently made an angle bracket to hold a regular socket for a 3rd brake light on daBus, which has an old light fixture with just enough room for an 1157 size bulb and socket on it's side - just need to find a cur-clip to keep it from moving and something to replace the missing license lense at the bottom

Bill

That’s it Tim, straight out of 50’s Casco patent document. And yep, got one of their elements right here in my paw, and guess what, strangely enough it looks just exactly like the other 12v coils that I’ve got in the electrical box.
The original 6v lighter element wire, as I posted earlier, is thicker and only makes a half dozen loops, the 12v version is much finer wire and has about twice as many loops, so you tell me, is that reproduction element really a 6v version????

The 6v receptacle is 21.4mm, the 12v receptacle is 20.97mm so you can stuff a 12v element into a 6v receptacle but not the other way round. I also got one of their 6v complete lighter assemblies and it to looks like it’s just a 12v unit labeled as a 6v. The receptacle in it is 21.1mm and my old original 6v plug will not fit.
Score another one in the red for our suppliers!

I can buy those sockets with the angle brackets Bill, what I’m looking for exactly what Tim brought up, one that would fit the accessory cigar lighters. Since they seem to be no longer available, it looks like I’ll have to make a die and try pressing some shells out in my 20-ton press. Gosh, there just isn’t any end to the fun is there!

Denny Graham
Sandwich, IL

Denny,

May be worth a look in the model railroading world where they use similar items. I don't have a current catalog but one of the biggest is these guys.

http://www.walthers.com/

Try the HELP section at your FLAPS, part #56417-lighted cigar lighter assy. Nearly identical to the one Tim posted above, only 12v & Chinese I'm sure.

That's one idea Brad, think I'll look thru my Micro-Mark catalog. Problem that I already anticipate is that most every on is going to LED in hobby, automotive, entertainment now days. The incandescent bulb is gonna go the way the telephone booth, VCR's and record players did and become extinct in a few years.

Well that's certainly another option Brian, a bit expensive right around ten bucks at most stores that carry Dorman products. You couldn’t use the 12v lighter it self of course so you would be paying ten bucks for the lamp socket.

The question that I woke up with this morning was, would the 12v lighter work on 6v??? So I hooked up one of the 12v plugs to a 6v battery this morning and the jumper wires got REAL hot, but the element never did get a glow on. I measured the resistance of the 12v element and got about .6ohms. Not sure about that value because it gets kind of difficult to get an accurate resistance measurement with most of the DMM’s on the market today. But using that figure for both the 12v & 6v measurements shows the relationship that I was looking for.

Ohms law: P=E^2/R Using the values 12v and .6ohms; which yields 240 watts
P=E^2/R Using the values 6v and .6ohms; which yields 60 watts

So I see that there is no way of using the 12v element on 6v, just gonna restrict the current to much, 20a on 12v and 10a on 6v.

Bottom line at this point is, that if I want a 6v lighted cigar lighter, I’m gonna have to make my own side mounted socket shell.
Denny Graham
Sandwich, IL