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#76709 04/24/2007 2:18 PM | Joined: Jul 2006 Posts: 92 Wrench Fetcher | | Wrench Fetcher Joined: Jul 2006 Posts: 92 | Is this a good swap and easy? Want to pull the 216 and 4 spd. Put in 230 and powerglide. Thanks | | |
#76710 04/24/2007 3:15 PM | Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 385 Wrench Fetcher | | Wrench Fetcher Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 385 | Get a copy of Leo Santucci's book on hot-rodding Chevrolet 6s. I think you will end up going with a 292 high-deck instead of a 230 or 250. The 292 motor mounts are different from the 230/250, but all three of the late model sixes motor mounts are different from the 216.
You might need a custom drive shaft, but those are available in most large cities.
195? Chevy 3800 dump truck 1973 Chevy C30 cab and chassis 1987 Suburban 3/4 ton 6.2L Diesel
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#76711 04/24/2007 3:17 PM | Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 385 Wrench Fetcher | | Wrench Fetcher Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 385 | BTW, The reason I suggest it is that I'm going to put a 292 in my 1951 4400 as soon as I can find a good one. From everything I've read the fan height might be the only problem, and, since I'm planning to use an electric fan, I think I can get around that.
195? Chevy 3800 dump truck 1973 Chevy C30 cab and chassis 1987 Suburban 3/4 ton 6.2L Diesel
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#76712 04/25/2007 2:12 AM | Joined: Oct 2004 Posts: 348 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: Oct 2004 Posts: 348 | if thats what you have put it in, use motor mounts from buffalo in washington, i like a 250 or 292 but sometimes we need to stay within our budget. i can send you a picture of a 250 with 350 trans installed in a 54 chevy truck send me a email [email protected] | | |
#76713 04/25/2007 3:33 AM | Joined: Mar 2004 Posts: 3,068 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Mar 2004 Posts: 3,068 | You'll also have to convert to 12 volts for the more modern engines. The only real fab work involved would be the engine and trans mounts, which as stated previously, can be bought almost anywhere that sells AD truck parts.
Too bad you all are not closer, I have all of those engines - 230, 250 and a 292 just sitting in storage and complete. Good luck, Scott | | |
#76714 04/25/2007 3:55 PM | Joined: Jul 2006 Posts: 92 Wrench Fetcher | | Wrench Fetcher Joined: Jul 2006 Posts: 92 | I haven't bought the 230 yet but am thinking about it, I have a powerglide. This is just going to be a daily driver & fishing truck, nothing fancy. Thanks for the replys and John I will email you. Thanks Virg | | |
#76715 04/25/2007 5:42 PM | Joined: Oct 2001 Posts: 3,458 Extreme Gabster | | Extreme Gabster Joined: Oct 2001 Posts: 3,458 | You are probably going to have to move the radiator forward to fit it, it is longer than the 216.
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#76716 04/26/2007 5:06 PM | Joined: Jul 2006 Posts: 92 Wrench Fetcher | | Wrench Fetcher Joined: Jul 2006 Posts: 92 | Any one have info on the motor mounts from Buffalo in Washington,,,web addy or anything? I can't find anything on them...Tks...Virg | | |
#76717 04/27/2007 3:10 AM | Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 2,393 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 2,393 | Buffalo has no web, no email,no b.s. 25625 Dahl Road Arlington,WA 98223 360-652-7684 Tom Langdon in Michigan can help you too. www.stoveboltengineco.com
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#76718 04/27/2007 3:48 AM | Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 385 Wrench Fetcher | | Wrench Fetcher Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 385 | 48BigTrucks, Iowa isn't that far away. Could you PM me with a quote on the 292?
Sorry for getting commercial everyone.
195? Chevy 3800 dump truck 1973 Chevy C30 cab and chassis 1987 Suburban 3/4 ton 6.2L Diesel
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#76719 04/27/2007 9:01 AM | Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 385 Wrench Fetcher | | Wrench Fetcher Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 385 | 4ontheFloor, I was going by Santucci's book since I don't have a late model six to measure. From what he wrote the 194/230/250 is about two inches shorter in length than the 235/261 and about 3 inches less in height. Weight savings is 24%.
The 292 is supposed to be the same height as the 235/261, same difference in length and 19% lighter. Does anyone have an early model and a late model 6 to measure?
195? Chevy 3800 dump truck 1973 Chevy C30 cab and chassis 1987 Suburban 3/4 ton 6.2L Diesel
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#76720 04/27/2007 5:26 PM | Joined: Oct 2004 Posts: 348 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: Oct 2004 Posts: 348 | dont buy your motor mounts until you purchase your engine, 292 motor mounts are off set check your email i set you more pictures you will have to side mount your motor if you put a automatic in it | | |
#76721 05/02/2007 10:15 PM | Joined: Jul 2006 Posts: 92 Wrench Fetcher | | Wrench Fetcher Joined: Jul 2006 Posts: 92 | Forget the 230,,,I just bought a 283....have a PG ...how does this sound? Will nee motor mounts and tranny mounts for those...Virg | | |
#76722 05/03/2007 4:00 AM | Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 5,152 Cruising in the Passing Lane | | Cruising in the Passing Lane Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 5,152 | I bet it will sound great if you put the right exhaust system on it.
Going V-8 is a little more work than a six. Most the old truck venders offer V-8 and transmission crossmembers. Don't ususally cost a whole lot.
The biggest problem with this swap is the interferrence fit between the steering and the exhaust. You can move the steering box out to fix that, or convert to power steering using one of the kits available.
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#76723 05/03/2007 10:50 PM | Joined: Jul 2006 Posts: 92 Wrench Fetcher | | Wrench Fetcher Joined: Jul 2006 Posts: 92 | So far I have found Speedway in Lincoln, Ne. is the place to buy motor and eng. conversion stuff..Am I right? | | |
#76724 05/06/2007 4:50 PM | Joined: Jul 2006 Posts: 92 Wrench Fetcher | | Wrench Fetcher Joined: Jul 2006 Posts: 92 | Went to swapmeet in Lawrence Ks....H&H was there so got the stuff from them , saved shipping. Hope to get the 283/PG in soon. Maybe S10 rear. Thanks for info recvd...Virg | | |
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