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Jul 21st, 2025 | | | | Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 111 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 111 | Looking for a starter solenoid that mounts on the firewall and energizes the solenoid on the starter motor on this truck http://www.t137.com/cpg/albums/userpics/10010/Ed_s_GMC_side.jpg1951 GMC 650 diesel 4-71engine. Any help locating one or a part number would be Greatly appreciated. There's no numbers on the old one and can't seem to match it in Napa or Car Quest books. Thanks, TGP | | | | | Joined: Dec 2002 Posts: 2,538 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Dec 2002 Posts: 2,538 | I don't have the solenoid you're looking for, but would like to compliment you on your Wrecker. Was it recently on Craigslist. Looks to have a nice Holmes W35 Wrecker on the back of it. I hate it when the service body sides have been cut down like that. That was commomly done for easier access to the back of the body. I looked for years for one that had not been done this way. You can see mine in my webshots albums, in the links below. Looks to have a '54 cab, with the one piece windshield. | | | | | Joined: May 2005 Posts: 8,877 . | | . Joined: May 2005 Posts: 8,877 | Sounds like a normal off the shelf part from NAPA, or any big truck parts place.
Unless you need one exactly as original, in which case we'd need a picture, and still they may have one at the regular parts places.
Grigg | | | | | Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 4,903 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 4,903 | It will be hard to tell what was original. Parts have been superseded and 2010 class 8 trucks still use a solenoid on the firewall. It may have had the solenoid added later because don't see it listed in the parts book. | | | | | Joined: Nov 2005 Posts: 6,061 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Nov 2005 Posts: 6,061 | Hy TGP, how many batteries does your truck have? The device you seak may be a series/paralell switch, these were used when an engines starter was 12 volt, but the trucks electrical system was 6 volt, the switches were also used later on 12/24 volt systems, hope that helps. | | | | | Joined: May 2005 Posts: 8,877 . | | . Joined: May 2005 Posts: 8,877 | Looking for a starter solenoid that mounts on the firewall and energizes the solenoid on the starter motor.. A starter solenoid solenoid on a Diesel is common, and from the first description sounds like what he's after, a typical Ford starter solenoid (among others) will work for this application. Grigg | | | | | Joined: Jan 1970 Posts: 365 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: Jan 1970 Posts: 365 | Any John Deere dealer will have a starter relay. Ask for a starter relay for a 4440. | | | | | Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 111 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 111 | Hy TGP, how many batteries does your truck have? The device you seak may be a series/paralell switch, these were used when an engines starter was 12 volt, but the trucks electrical system was 6 volt, the switches were also used later on 12/24 volt systems, hope that helps. Thanks for the reply. I am very aware of a series parallel switch. That is not what I'm looking for. Right now it has one 4D battery. not sure what was original,probably two six volts. Thanks TGP | | | | | Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 111 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 111 | Sounds like a normal off the shelf part from NAPA, or any big truck parts place.
Unless you need one exactly as original, in which case we'd need a picture, and still they may have one at the regular parts places.
Grigg He could rewire a ford or barrel type solenoid in it's place but he wants to try and find the original if possible. I know this could be a daunting task. I I'm currently searching E Bay with some being close , no luck yet. It's kind'a like the old horn relay, but different and a little heavier. Picture here http://www.t137.com/cpg/displayimage.php?album=29&pid=1878#top_display_mediaAnd Here http://www.t137.com/cpg/displayimage.php?album=29&pid=1879#top_display_mediaThe top wire is the signal wire, the bottom end wire is Battery feed,the top end wire goes to the starter solenoid. Thanks TGP I | | | | | Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 111 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 111 | I don't have the solenoid you're looking for, but would like to compliment you on your Wrecker. Was it recently on Craigslist. Looks to have a nice Holmes W35 Wrecker on the back of it. I hate it when the service body sides have been cut down like that. That was commomly done for easier access to the back of the body. I looked for years for one that had not been done this way. You can see mine in my webshots albums, in the links below. Looks to have a '54 cab, with the one piece windshield. Spanky, Forgot to add that I'm not aware of it being on Craig list,but could have. It was at a local competor's business here until he sold out. As I understand the truck was bought wrecked (broken frame) by the towing company in the late fifties,and rebuilt as a wrecker. That would probably explain the later cab. TGP | | | | | Joined: Dec 2002 Posts: 2,538 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Dec 2002 Posts: 2,538 | WOW !, Thanks for the photo links. Enjoyed the 50's photos. | | | | | Joined: Nov 2005 Posts: 6,061 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Nov 2005 Posts: 6,061 | Hy TGP, I think the o.e.m. p/n for that relay is 1116855, hope that helps. | | | | | Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 165 Wrench Fetcher | | Wrench Fetcher Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 165 | Run this by us over at the ATHS disc board, someone there might have an idea what that is, I've not seen anything like that as a starter rely before, must be a jimmy item. | | | | | Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 111 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 111 | Hy TGP, I think the o.e.m. p/n for that relay is 1116855, hope that helps. Hey Thanks a lot. Numbers always help. I was going to look it up after Work,but looks like Mr Grigg done that for me HA Thanks Again! TGP | | | | | Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 111 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 111 | Thanks Grigg!!! Appreciate you doing my leg work,lol That looks like the closest one yet,although terminals are located a little different but very doable imo. I have passed it on to my brother. Thanks Again! TGP | | | | | Joined: Nov 1995 Posts: 5,470 Bond Villain | | Bond Villain Joined: Nov 1995 Posts: 5,470 | TGP, And if mone of that works out, try calling some friends of Grigg's and mine in PA (Leid Diesel Service) 717-776-7725 Ask for Timothy, but any of them should be able to help you. Explain what you're after and they might have it in stock to ship out that day or next via UPS. They are gurus of the 71 series Detroits. Billy Marlow and I had our 6-71's worked on while we waited last Friday.  And yeah, that *is* a beautiful truck! Would you happen to have a nice hi-resolution digital picture of it we could use in the Big Bolt calendar for next year?? Email me at editor@stovebolt.com Good luck, John
~ John "We are not now that strength which in old days Moved earth and heaven; that which we are, we are" 1948 International Farmall Super A1949 Chevrolet 3804In the Legacy Gallery | In the Gallery Forum1973 IH 1310 Dump2001 International/AmTran RE3000 "Skoolie"2014 Ford E-350 4x4 (Quigley) | | | | | Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 111 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 111 | TGP, And if mone of that works out, try calling some friends of Grigg's and mine in PA (Leid Diesel Service) 717-776-7725 Ask for Timothy, but any of them should be able to help you. Explain what you're after and they might have it in stock to ship out that day or next via UPS. They are gurus of the 71 series Detroits. Billy Marlow and I had our 6-71's worked on while we waited last Friday. And yeah, that *is* a beautiful truck! Would you happen to have a nice hi-resolution digital picture of it we could use in the Big Bolt calendar for next year?? Email me at editor@stovebolt.com Good luck, John Thanks John! I ordered the solenoid from Buick Farm with the part number provided by 3B. They showed a picture and it's very close to the one mounted on the truck,weather it's original or some aftermarket from day's gone by. Thanks for the GM 71 info. I will remember that. I will try and get a picture for the calendar for you as soon as possible. When is the cut off date? That's a beautiful 59 850 GMC your friend has, by the way!!! TGP | | | | | Joined: Mar 2009 Posts: 9 New Guy | | New Guy Joined: Mar 2009 Posts: 9 | I was close to buying this truck. I saw it on Craigslist and talked with the owner. Went on vacation, got put on back burner. Emailed him a month or so later and told me they it just sold.
The pictures I got though were with it shoved back in the garage with stuff all around it. Was tough to get a clear "shot" of what it really looked like.
I'm in Jacksonville -- up North on 67 from you guys -- I've seen your stuff before -- very, very sharp. Glad to know this one went to a GREAT home. | | |
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