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on the Internet for over 30 years! and not clogged down with Ads! Again, thanks! | | | | Joined: Apr 2006 Posts: 171 Wrench Fetcher | | Wrench Fetcher Joined: Apr 2006 Posts: 171 | My dad and I are in the middle of replacing rear leaf springs and shocks on our 1954 1/2 ton pickup. We have the passenger side complete, but when we went to do the other driver side, we found out that there was no shim. I don't know if the shim is supposed to be there or not, and I'm confused as to why I only have one (on the passenger side).
By shim, I mean a rectangular plate that fits over the top of the leaf spring, between the rear axle and spring. The shim has a hole on one side and a pin on the other side so it lines up with the pin on the top of the leaf spring and the hole attached to the axle. it is about 1/4 inch thick.
None of the vendors seem to sell this "shim", so I'm guessing it doesn't belong there. I'm hoping someone will tell me that the shim is not needed and was not there when the truck was built. I'm hoping it was something put on during rear suspension service, perhaps, to level the truck or to stiffen a spring that was wearing out.
Any experience or thoughts on this would be greatly helpful! Thanks.
| | | | | Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 1,464 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 1,464 | Nope, the spring mounts directly to the pad on the axle. I'd guess it was a leveling attempt. | | | | | Joined: Feb 2006 Posts: 150 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: Feb 2006 Posts: 150 | I wouldn't through that shim to far as my '54 1/2T has the same thing. I couldn't figure out Why it was there but it sure looked factory to me. I was going to post this very same question but decided it's obviously a factory design.
Good luck | | | | | Joined: Apr 2006 Posts: 171 Wrench Fetcher | | Wrench Fetcher Joined: Apr 2006 Posts: 171 | Did a little more research and found the answer in a shop manual diagram: Check out figure 86 at the bottom There is no shim there, so I'll assume this was put in at some point during a service procedure. Looks like I have a little work to do... | | | | | Joined: Feb 2006 Posts: 150 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: Feb 2006 Posts: 150 | Um, Figure 86 depicts the drivers side. The shim on my truck is on the Passenger side. I wish I could help more, but as of this writing there is a '69 Camaro 10 bolt posi installed on my truck and I'm eager for its return home. | | | | | Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 547 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 547 | Well now wait a minute.... I replaced my rear springs 6 months ago, the drivers rear, if memory serves, had a plate just like that described inbetween the spring and axle. I asked about it on here and got a few suggestions. One was that this plate is to distribute the load from the additional weight of the spare tire. Right now I don't have that plate installed, cause my spring guy never gave it back, and the truck seems to lean to the drivers side abit. So there might be a reason for it, don't throw it away just yet.
58' 3200 235 3-speed/OD
| | | | | Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 547 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 547 | Another question is, do you have a spare tire carrier? And what side is it on?
58' 3200 235 3-speed/OD
| | | | | Joined: Feb 2008 Posts: 102 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: Feb 2008 Posts: 102 | I thought the shims where to adjust the geometry of the suspension or for alignments. My '52 had one in each front spring. Did yours look like a wedge? Kinda Like This | | | | | Joined: Apr 2006 Posts: 171 Wrench Fetcher | | Wrench Fetcher Joined: Apr 2006 Posts: 171 | Apache: I do have the spare tire carrier and it is on the driver's side. I guess I'd be surprised if the weight of a spare tire would be enough to warrant a suspension modification to compensate. But your idea makes sense, and now I'm wondering about it...
As for the shim itself, it is definitely not wedge shaped as in your picture. It is clearly a spacer meant to add space between the axle mounting plate and the spring. I think the shim effectively lowers that side of the truck, forcing that spring to arch more.
Any other thoughts on this topic? At this point I'm planning on taking off the spacer this weekend, but would like to hear other opinions. Thanks.
| | | | | Joined: May 2001 Posts: 7,438 Extreme Gabster | | Extreme Gabster Joined: May 2001 Posts: 7,438 | The wedge shaped ones on the front set the angle of the front axle. All trucks have them.
I think the spare tire theory has some merit. You also have a driver on that side. Putting the tire there with a driver could have caused a lean. A lot of trucks without side spares lean to the driver side. | | | | | Joined: Feb 2006 Posts: 150 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: Feb 2006 Posts: 150 | My 54 3100 has the spare mounted on the driver side. | | | | | Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 1,464 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 1,464 | OHHHHH! You have the spare tire mounted on the driver's side instead of underneath!! O.K. that is RPO 341 and the Assembly Manual shows the "spacer" in question on the pass. side only, part no. 2308561.
Sorry for the misleading post. | | | | | Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 547 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 547 | I am also still curious about this. I wouldn't think a spare would make a truck lean that much. Is this spacer really need? If so, which side should it be on? Side with the spare or opposite? And where can I get another one?
58' 3200 235 3-speed/OD
| | | | | Joined: Apr 2006 Posts: 171 Wrench Fetcher | | Wrench Fetcher Joined: Apr 2006 Posts: 171 | Waldo- Can you tell me on what page or sheet number in the assembly manual this part is shown? I have the manual but didn't see it on the rear suspension page.
Apache- I'm thinking the side of the truck with the spring spacer will effectively be lowered. This is because the shim puts the body of the truck lower to the ground with respect to the axle. So if the spacer is for compensation of the spare tire carrier and/or driver, then it makes sense to be on the passenger side only.
But I'd still like to see the part in the assembly manual! Hopefully Waldo53 can point me in the right direction!! Thanks everyone. | | | | | Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 1,464 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 1,464 | It's shown in the R.P.O. sections, Section 10, Sheet 3.02
The spacer is shown for R.H. side only. | | | | | Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 547 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 547 | The spacer lowering the body to the ground would not be true for my Task Force truck, as the axle is below the springs. It seems it would raise the side it is on, so for me that may be correct to have it on the driver's side.
58' 3200 235 3-speed/OD
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