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on the Internet for over 30 years! and not clogged down with Ads! Again, thanks! | | | | Joined: Jun 2009 Posts: 235 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Jun 2009 Posts: 235 | I might be dreaming, but I thought there was something about taking a distributor apart and using a screwdriver to turn everything over and check for correct oiling and what not. If I'm correct, can someone point me to where I can find info on how to do that, and if I'm not - was it the oil pump or something? (I really think it had something to do with the distributor though).
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'53 Chevy 3604 Five Window Cab ('56 235)
| | | | | Joined: Mar 2002 Posts: 9,115 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Mar 2002 Posts: 9,115 | The distributor is driven by the camshaft and in turn, it drives the oil pump. If you remove the distributor, you sill see that the bottom of the shaft looks like a large slot screwdriver. If you put a shaft with a similar end in a drill into the distrutor hole and seat it into the oil pump, you can turn the pump and generate oil pressure. You could do this and watch for oil to run out the rocker arm shaft. | | | | | Joined: Apr 2008 Posts: 44 Wrench Fetcher | | Wrench Fetcher Joined: Apr 2008 Posts: 44 | If you have an old distributor, you can strip the cap, rotor, and everything else off of it, and then grind the gear right off the shaft. I did that to prime my 230 build last year, it worked very very well. | | | | | Joined: Jun 2009 Posts: 235 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Jun 2009 Posts: 235 | so from what I read, I could either use a screw driver, or basically, turn the distributor into a screw driver by grinding the gear off of the shaft which would seat exactly where its supposed to.
I do have an old distributor I'm not going to use. I guess the question is, is would I be risking anything by just using the screw driver - like stripping out whatever it goes into (its not like I've never stripped a flat head screw!).
What do you think?
'53 Chevy 3604 Five Window Cab ('56 235)
| | | | | Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 29,819 Kettle Custodian (pot stirrer) | | Kettle Custodian (pot stirrer) Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 29,819 | I use a piece of 1/2" diameter round stock, and grind/file a flat tang on the end to duplicate the bottom of the distributor shaft. That way, there's no question of the shaft fitting into the oil pump drive properly. Just spin the shaft clockwise with a 1/2" capacity drill motor until you feel the drill load down- - - -it's very obvious when you get oil pressure. Have someone spin the engine with the starter for a few seconds if you want to distribute the pressurized oil evenly. Be sure the oil pressure port is plugged, or the gauge is connected- - - -it's surprising how far that little fitting can squirt oil! Jerry
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| | | | | Joined: May 2005 Posts: 334 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: May 2005 Posts: 334 | There isn't any risk using a screwdriver shaft in the drill. When I first worked on my 235 years ago, I took a solid steel curtain rod, cut it to a good length, and ground a flat screwdriver type end on it. It worked great! An old mechanic friend showed me that. Samantha | | | | | Joined: Sep 2001 Posts: 29,269 Bubba - Curmudgeon | | Bubba - Curmudgeon Joined: Sep 2001 Posts: 29,269 | Take the cam gear off a old distributor by tapping out the attachment pin (after grinding one end of the pin). You can then rotate the pump using an electric drill or air drill and a 6-sided socket over the rotor shaft.
| | | | | Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 227 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 227 | An air drill works better.....electric drills tend to burn out the brushes under load. If you use an electric drill, watch that it does not get hot or start to smoke! | | | | | Joined: Nov 2008 Posts: 137 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: Nov 2008 Posts: 137 | Summit sells one that fits for a chevy. Cost is like $12. Hook it up to a drill and it works like a charm. I marked the top of mine to line up the slot for stabbing the dizzy back in. | | | | | Joined: Jun 2009 Posts: 235 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Jun 2009 Posts: 235 | any idea where I'd find that on their site? I did a search for distributor under tools. Thanks
'53 Chevy 3604 Five Window Cab ('56 235)
| | | | | Joined: Sep 2001 Posts: 29,269 Bubba - Curmudgeon | | Bubba - Curmudgeon Joined: Sep 2001 Posts: 29,269 | | | | | | Joined: Mar 2005 Posts: 1,513 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Mar 2005 Posts: 1,513 | An old pushrod with the socket end cut off and the ball end flattened works well especially with a pneumatic drill.
1952 1300 Canadian 1/2 ton restomod You Tube | | | | | Joined: Sep 2009 Posts: 69 New Guy | | New Guy Joined: Sep 2009 Posts: 69 | we just cut an old screw driver and used that. a guy restring an early 1950's corvette with the 235 said that it works well
2000 Nissan Frontier, 3.3L (sold) 2006 Chevy Cobalt SS, 2.4L 1952 Chevy 1/2 pickup, 235 c.i. I6 when life speeds up, downshift
| | | | | Joined: Sep 2009 Posts: 35 Apprentice | | Apprentice Joined: Sep 2009 Posts: 35 | you guys all need to join todays tool market!!! harbor freight has a distributor oil primer tool that does this job very well when used with a common drill, sells for around $12.................. | | | | | Joined: Nov 2008 Posts: 137 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: Nov 2008 Posts: 137 | Right here
http://www.summitracing.com/search/Department/Tools-Shop-Equipment/Part-Type/Oil-Pump-Primers/?Ns=Rank%7cAsc | | | | | Joined: Sep 2001 Posts: 29,269 Bubba - Curmudgeon | | Bubba - Curmudgeon Joined: Sep 2001 Posts: 29,269 | sdsmooth & Project Helen,
What would be the part numbers?
Thanks,
| | | | | Joined: Nov 2008 Posts: 137 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: Nov 2008 Posts: 137 | For a SBC here is the part #.. Sorry price went up to $19 but all ball bearing, a nice tool to own
Summit Racing SUM-901010 | | | | | Joined: Jun 2009 Posts: 235 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Jun 2009 Posts: 235 | Ok, am I missing something? The end of the distributor shaft is flat, which is why I'm assuming people are saying its ok to use a screwdriver shaft. The end of this tool looks round to me, shouldn't the end be flat, like a screwdriver? What am I not getting?
'53 Chevy 3604 Five Window Cab ('56 235)
| | | | | Joined: Sep 2001 Posts: 29,269 Bubba - Curmudgeon | | Bubba - Curmudgeon Joined: Sep 2001 Posts: 29,269 | What size engine, Paul? I assumed a 216/235/261 (sorry)?
The SBC tool will most likely not work in a stovebolt engine (if it will, maybe someone will confirm this)?
| | | | | Joined: Feb 2010 Posts: 323 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Feb 2010 Posts: 323 | Be careful My son smoked my 18 volt Dewalt priming a v8
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1937 Chevy 1/2 ton panel 1953 GMC 2 ton. future car hauler
| | | | | Joined: Jul 2008 Posts: 176 Wrench Fetcher | | Wrench Fetcher Joined: Jul 2008 Posts: 176 | Why would you spend 10-20 dollars on a tool which may or may not work instead of making one for free in less time than it would take to order the other off the internet? | | | | | Joined: Apr 2008 Posts: 44 Wrench Fetcher | | Wrench Fetcher Joined: Apr 2008 Posts: 44 | I agree with "kingisomer". The tool is cheap, but can very easily be made for free in a few minutes. Any flat slotted end will work fine. You just want it to be able to spin quick (hence putting your drill on the end of it), and not bounce around loosely, as that will chew up the end of the oil pump, and perhaps the shaft that the distributor sits in. You obviously want it to remain oil tight afterwards.
Don't worry too much about burning out your drill; as "Hotrod Lincoln" mentioned, it is VERY obvious once that pressure is built up, and you can stop at that point.
Hope that simplifies it for you. | | | | | Joined: Jun 2009 Posts: 235 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Jun 2009 Posts: 235 | its a 235 - appreciate the help
'53 Chevy 3604 Five Window Cab ('56 235)
| | | | | Joined: Aug 2007 Posts: 1,859 Grumpy old guy playing with trucks, cars, and boats | | Grumpy old guy playing with trucks, cars, and boats Joined: Aug 2007 Posts: 1,859 | I used 1/2" shaft a grinder and small piece of copper tube to keep it centered on the pump shaft. I usually use a 1/2" drill. on high pressure / high volume pumps, you can just about stall the drill, so you know when you have pressure.
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