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Good morning:
Having starting problems with the old 261. I guess it would be the same issue for 216, 235 and 261. It starts somewhat prompt (tow to three turns before it fires up) when it is cold. After it warms up, between the left mark and the middle mark, it has a difficult times starting. Sometimes it does not start at all.
I wonder what the problem is. Is it timing or carburetion issues? And if it is timing, how to?
Any help will be appreciated. Thanks in advanced for the info.

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We need some more information. Does is crank over ok, or slowly? If it cranks slowly and you are still 6 volts, check all your cables and connections. They have to be in really good shape for hot starts.

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Kenc, It cranks over well. It is a 12 volt system. Once it starts it runs good. I will check all the cables for connection ststus. Could it be that it needs points, or timing? Thanks.

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Points shouldn't care if it's hot or cold, but the condenser or coil could. More likely the carb is percolating. Is your heat riser working correctly and do you have an insulator under the carb? You could try to cool the fuel line with cold water to see if that helps.

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When it does finally start, does is smoke? If so, is the smoke black. If it is it is carb related. Fuel leaking into the intake due to a high float setting, percolating as mentioned above some combination of fuel problems. If it doesn't smoke, let us know.

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I've run into this several times. There have been several different causes. As Baldy said, in a couple of cases it was the coil. I figger that it had a broken wire in one of the windings and it would make contact when cold, but with some expansion due to heat, it would lose its connection and wouldn't provide spark.

Another time this sort of problem was cause by a fuel filter that expanded internally and strangled itself to where it wouldn't flow when hot. This was on a F**d (although I hate to admit to having bought one new once) and I've never seen it on a Chevy, but I spose it's still possible.

Percolation is another possibility (again, as Baldy suggested.) You could test this theory by having a can of starting fluid on hand and giving it a shot when attempting a hot start. I've seen this most often on motors with aluminum intake manifolds and no heat insulator under the carb (just as he said smile ) but ya never know...there may be a source of heat near your fuel line or fuel pump that causes the gas to percolate off.

Probably the best way to approach it is to determine if it's failing to fire because of a lack of spark or a lack of fuel. The starting fluid (ether) trick should help isolate that, as would pulling a plug wire, placing the hot end near a ground source and cranking it while observing it to see if there's a spark. Not the easiest thing, but not rocket science, either. Some creative use of some wire and a helper to crank it makes this easier.

Just some ideas and things to check. Let us know what ya find, k?


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