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| | | | Joined: Oct 2009 Posts: 105 Wrench Fetcher | | Wrench Fetcher Joined: Oct 2009 Posts: 105 | on my 1954 chevy 3100 it has a 235 motor in it. i can't seem to find the oil filter on it. shouldn't it have one? | | | | | Joined: May 2005 Posts: 487 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: May 2005 Posts: 487 | The oil filter was an option. Usually they were mounted on the intake manifold. Here is a pic. You can see the oil filter on the left, the orange canister. regards, Leon | | | | | Joined: Oct 2009 Posts: 105 Wrench Fetcher | | Wrench Fetcher Joined: Oct 2009 Posts: 105 | can i add one to it and how dow i do it. thanks mark | | | | | Joined: Oct 2009 Posts: 105 Wrench Fetcher | | Wrench Fetcher Joined: Oct 2009 Posts: 105 | I have seen the kind that look like a beehive it has rings around it. This one is OK also. I will look in my classic parts catalog also. I'm going to have to place another order I can see that right now. | | | | | Joined: Sep 2001 Posts: 29,270 Bubba - Curmudgeon | | Bubba - Curmudgeon Joined: Sep 2001 Posts: 29,270 |
bluecarpenter,
Check your Private Messages - regarding a beehive filter.
| | | | | Joined: Oct 2009 Posts: 105 Wrench Fetcher | | Wrench Fetcher Joined: Oct 2009 Posts: 105 | ok i just got the bypass oil filter. it came with an external filter. it has an incoming and outgoing hole. where do i connect each one to. i will have to get lines as they said they don't sell them. not sure why. i think this is ment to be hooked up to the firewall. just not sure where to hook the lines. thanks mark | | | | | Joined: Sep 2001 Posts: 29,270 Bubba - Curmudgeon | | Bubba - Curmudgeon Joined: Sep 2001 Posts: 29,270 |
Mark,
Is your filter similar to the one in the installation diagram I posted above?
| | | | | Joined: Oct 2009 Posts: 105 Wrench Fetcher | | Wrench Fetcher Joined: Oct 2009 Posts: 105 | No it is a chunk of aluminum that has been machined to except the external screw on type of filters found on most vehicals. Ithas a restrictor port in the filter. I can vet them at most auto parts stores. It has 3 hols to mount it on the firewall or else where. On the side at the top there is an inlet and outlet. Looks like 1/4 inch fittings.
On my 235 motor I see the port that has a t on it 1 runs to oil pressure gauge the other has a copper line runs up over motor and connects into the head just below valve cover. There is also a 1/4 inch plug about 10 infusion or so ahead of the line/ hole that goes to gauge. | | | | | Joined: Sep 2001 Posts: 29,270 Bubba - Curmudgeon | | Bubba - Curmudgeon Joined: Sep 2001 Posts: 29,270 | | | | | | Joined: Oct 2009 Posts: 105 Wrench Fetcher | | Wrench Fetcher Joined: Oct 2009 Posts: 105 | The one marked to filter inlet. That would be to the pressure gauge ?? It sure looks like it. The outlet hole is the one I have with a plug in it. Looks like any way as I might be able to use the 2 holes above it to mount the filter assembly. | | | | | Joined: Sep 2001 Posts: 29,270 Bubba - Curmudgeon | | Bubba - Curmudgeon Joined: Sep 2001 Posts: 29,270 |
Yes, that port ("to filter inlet") is shown in the installation sheet, above, as the location of the "T" fitting for the oil "gage" line.
| | | | | Joined: May 2005 Posts: 487 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: May 2005 Posts: 487 | Mark, I mounted mine off the motor mount boss. Here's a pic. If you want to do something similar, here are the bolt patterns. I had trouble bending the short hard line until I found these tube bending pliers. I used a 1/16" restrictor hole in the return fitting. regards, Leon
Last edited by Leon; 12/23/2009 1:37 PM. Reason: added restrictor size
| | | | | Joined: Oct 2009 Posts: 105 Wrench Fetcher | | Wrench Fetcher Joined: Oct 2009 Posts: 105 | The directions tell me to use a filter with a restrictor built into it. If it is inline does that work better? | | | | | Joined: Oct 2009 Posts: 105 Wrench Fetcher | | Wrench Fetcher Joined: Oct 2009 Posts: 105 | Also what size are the fittings on the motor. Pipe thread or different. 1/4 inch. Thanks mark | | | | | Joined: May 2006 Posts: 8,351 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: May 2006 Posts: 8,351 | The fittings on the engine are 1/8" Pipe Thread.
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| | | | | Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 29,844 Kettle Custodian (pot stirrer) | | Kettle Custodian (pot stirrer) Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 29,844 | If you want to use a spin-on filter to make you feel better about having filtered oil, that's good. The problem with most of them is the size of the particles they remove. The micron size of a full-flow filter is so large that it only traps the big stuff. The original-equipment canister type filter had a much finer filtration built into the filter because the oil did not have to flow fast enough to supply the bearings with enough oil to keep the engine lubricated. The oil was well-filtered, and then simply drained back into the oil pan. One of the industrial-type filter manufacturers like Wix or Baldwin probably has a spin-on filter that has a 5 micron or smaller element that will actually do some filtering in a bypass application. Using a full-flow filter in a bypass situation makes an engine owner feel good, but it does little, if anything to really filter the oil.
Jerry
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| | | | | Joined: Oct 2009 Posts: 105 Wrench Fetcher | | Wrench Fetcher Joined: Oct 2009 Posts: 105 | Where do I get the canister type oil filter at. Thar is what I was wanting but they sent this to me ( the spin on type of filter) even the picture showed the drop in type | | | | | Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 29,844 Kettle Custodian (pot stirrer) | | Kettle Custodian (pot stirrer) Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 29,844 | Several members here have canister type filters for sale or trade, and they're on Ebay all the time. Some even come with the correct pressure and return lines included in the deal. Try putting a post in the "parts wanted" forum, and I'll bet you get a bite in a matter of hours.
Jerry
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Cringe and wail in fear, Eloi- - - - -we Morlocks are on the hunt!
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| | | | | Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 29,844 Kettle Custodian (pot stirrer) | | Kettle Custodian (pot stirrer) Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 29,844 |
"It is better to be silent and be thought a fool than to speak and eliminate all doubt!" - Abraham Lincoln
Cringe and wail in fear, Eloi- - - - -we Morlocks are on the hunt!
There is nothing noble in being superior to your fellow man; true nobility is being superior to your former self. - Ernest Hemingway
Love your enemies and drive 'em nuts!
| | | | | Joined: Oct 2009 Posts: 105 Wrench Fetcher | | Wrench Fetcher Joined: Oct 2009 Posts: 105 | yep i saw that one too but i already bid on one and won it and it is in the next state north of me in iowa. got the canister,filter and hoses. it is new old stock. hope to have it in a few days. I will have to have O'Reillys order some more filters in for me as they only have 1 on had.
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