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#59385 04/18/2006 11:25 PM | Joined: Jun 2005 Posts: 145 Wrench Fetcher | | Wrench Fetcher Joined: Jun 2005 Posts: 145 | I just put a 1958 235 in another ’51, 3100 Chev. The engine was rebuilt by and engine builder in Spokane, WA. When I started the engine, it had a big oil leak at the front of the engine. I changed the Timing Cover Gasket and still had the oil leak. Today I changed the oil pan gasket and still have the leak There is no oil on the harmonic balancer or the bottom of the timing cover. The valve cover does not leak and neither does the side cover. I am assuming that the oil leak is from the engine front mounting plate and I need to pull the camshaft to remove the plate or even see if there are loose bolts/screws. Can the camshaft be removed with the grill in place? I just read a recent post on here (I think) that said that the crankshaft gear needs to broken to get it off. Is this true? My Chevrolet Truck Manual says that the crank gear can be pulled with a puller. What is the case?
I need questions and comments…PLEASE.
Thruwurkin Kennewick, WA
Half Ton Will Travel God bless America...One nation under God
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#59386 04/18/2006 11:45 PM | Joined: Jan 2000 Posts: 591 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Jan 2000 Posts: 591 | Before doing anaything dramatic, check the simple stuff first. If it appears to be leaking in the front, I would verify that the timing gear cover is actually snugged up. If memory serves, two bottom bolts are secured differently than the others. I believe they have securing nuts that can only be accessed with the oil pan dropped. Often they loosen, but it is not obvious. Others I'm sure will either provide more specific advice or correct me if I'm offbase. However, if I ever drop the oil pan on my 261, I will drill & tap those holes so they are like the rest. | | |
#59387 04/18/2006 11:51 PM | Joined: Jun 2005 Posts: 145 Wrench Fetcher | | Wrench Fetcher Joined: Jun 2005 Posts: 145 | "verify that the timing gear cover is actually snugged up."
Thanks for the fast comeback. I Have checked all the possibilities with the truck up on a rack. The leak appears to be coming from the mounting plate. Thanks again.
Thruwurkin Kennewick, WA
Half Ton Will Travel God bless America...One nation under God
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#59388 04/19/2006 1:20 AM | Joined: Oct 2005 Posts: 738 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: Oct 2005 Posts: 738 | Kennewick!!! Right on, it is nice to see another Washington bolter on here. I don't have a tip or anything, sorry. Good Luck!
Kyle
"Never tell people how to do things. Tell them what to do and they will surprise you with their ingenuity." - George S. Patton My Machine | | |
#59389 04/19/2006 4:07 AM | Joined: Feb 2006 Posts: 112 Member | | Member Joined: Feb 2006 Posts: 112 | i'm in the process of rebuilding a 261...one thing i noticed while putting timing cover on is when i tightened up one of the screws on cover it was seperating the plate from block...had to clean out the gunk at the bottom of that hole...then i put an extra washer on that hole..looked like a good seal after that.. | | |
#59390 04/19/2006 4:15 AM | Joined: Mar 2002 Posts: 9,115 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Mar 2002 Posts: 9,115 | If you can manage it, you should try sticking something really thin up between the plate and the block to see if there is a space. With all these parts being separated in a shop, maybe stored for a while, something like a plate could get bent a little.
As far as the crankshaft gear goes, I believe that the original gear had two threaded holes for a puller but some replacement gears don't. | | |
#59391 04/19/2006 5:29 AM | Joined: Sep 2003 Posts: 1,820 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: Sep 2003 Posts: 1,820 | I had a persistant leak from the front oil galley plug on a 56 261 block. I finally found the leak and found a small freeze plug was in it to seal it, but had started leaking. I tried several things to stop it and finally notice on a 62 block I have that the galley was sealed with a threaded plug. I removed the freeze plug and installed a threaded plug. Problem solved. Check that front oil galley plug on the left side of the block just left of the timing cover and front engine plate. Hope this helps! Joe 
"Truckin' Around .......... Since 1937!" My name is Joe and I am addicted to Classic Country Music. I just can't hep myself.Operators are standing by to take your calls! Now cruising in the Passing Lane | | |
#59392 04/19/2006 2:27 PM | Joined: Sep 2005 Posts: 254 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: Sep 2005 Posts: 254 | if i remember right from when i tore apart the 235 out of my 55 2nd series that you can not take the timing gear cover off without droping the oil pan cause there was two bolts that screwed in from the inside out other wise its posible that there might be oil in the bolt holes that would make the bolts losen from the vibration from the engine its not likely but hey anythings posible Nate | | |
#59393 04/22/2006 2:28 AM | Joined: Jun 2005 Posts: 145 Wrench Fetcher | | Wrench Fetcher Joined: Jun 2005 Posts: 145 | Looks like success!! I pulled the radiator, swung the alternator out of the way, removed the fan pullley and removed all the screws from the timing cover that could come in contact with the block. After a thorough cleaning, I put put a bead of Hi-Temp RTV on the mating surfaces of the block and mounting plate and let it sit overnight. I then put lock washers on the screws and reinstalled them and reinstalled everything. It now has about 25 miles on it and no leak...so far.
Thanks to all that posted and I owe you all at least one of your favorite beverages.
Thruwurkin Kennewick, WA
Half Ton Will Travel God bless America...One nation under God
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#59394 04/22/2006 6:36 AM | Joined: Feb 2006 Posts: 1,867 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: Feb 2006 Posts: 1,867 | Theres almost enough of us in WA to get our own column now, right? Congrats on gettin her fixed! My old 216 pukes oil all over but the seals are 53 years old so im gettin my moneys worth! Jeff | | |
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