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on the Internet for over 30 years! and not clogged down with Ads! Again, thanks! | | | | Joined: Feb 2009 Posts: 38 Wrench Fetcher | | Wrench Fetcher Joined: Feb 2009 Posts: 38 | I haven't had much luck researching what engine I have. I'll give you the truck info. 1951 Chevy 2 Ton 6100 series 137"wb 98HP with 16,000 GVW Dump. The question is the engine?? Block numbers are as follow 3835499, GM4. Is this a 235 (1951) or a 261 which I thought was a 1954 engine. Any help would be great. | | | | | Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 1,464 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 1,464 | The casting no. shows up as a '50 - '52 216. If you can get the ID number, stamped on the raised boss just behind the distributor we can probably nail it down a little closer. | | | | | Joined: Jun 2005 Posts: 1,756 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: Jun 2005 Posts: 1,756 | | | | | | Joined: Sep 2001 Posts: 29,269 Bubba - Curmudgeon | | Bubba - Curmudgeon Joined: Sep 2001 Posts: 29,269 | gazim,
Is there a link at mortec.com for identifying a 216/235/261 6-cylinder engine (serial number and/or casting number)?
Tim
| | | | | Joined: Feb 2009 Posts: 38 Wrench Fetcher | | Wrench Fetcher Joined: Feb 2009 Posts: 38 | | | | | | Joined: Sep 2001 Posts: 29,269 Bubba - Curmudgeon | | Bubba - Curmudgeon Joined: Sep 2001 Posts: 29,269 | | | | | | Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 1,464 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 1,464 | Good job tc! Another example of why we should take the casting no. charts available to us with a grain of salt. | | | | | Joined: Apr 2006 Posts: 506 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: Apr 2006 Posts: 506 | According to the 54 Master Parts Catalog
Casting number 3835499 is a head casting number, not a block casting.
That head casting number is listed for the 261.
-Tom
1950 Chevy 3100 w/ 1956 235
| | | | | Joined: Sep 2001 Posts: 29,269 Bubba - Curmudgeon | | Bubba - Curmudgeon Joined: Sep 2001 Posts: 29,269 | Jim Carter shows these 261 casting codes. Even if the 29-54 Master Parts Catalog is correct, 3835499 is (also?) a block casting code for 50-52 216s, | | | | | Joined: Feb 2009 Posts: 38 Wrench Fetcher | | Wrench Fetcher Joined: Feb 2009 Posts: 38 | Well guys I'm getting mixed reviews here. I have been told 261 by the numbers on the head 3835499 and 235 by the JEA stamp. What would be the explaination on this picture? Help. | | | | | Joined: Sep 2001 Posts: 29,269 Bubba - Curmudgeon | | Bubba - Curmudgeon Joined: Sep 2001 Posts: 29,269 | Beacon,
Your first post stated the 3835499 code is on the block - is it?
The engine serial number preface, JEA is for a 1951 235.
If you found the 3835499 casting code on the head, and that is a 261 head bolted to a 1951 block, it would be interesting to know how many head bolts are there (15 bolts in 51 and 18 bolts in 54).
Tim
| | | | | Joined: Feb 2009 Posts: 38 Wrench Fetcher | | Wrench Fetcher Joined: Feb 2009 Posts: 38 | Thanks for the tip. I'll look into that bolt ? on Thursday as the truck is on the lift as was speak. Thanks again | | | | | Joined: Jun 2005 Posts: 388 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: Jun 2005 Posts: 388 | beacon,
Do you have some photos of your engine that you could post? Does it have the tall or short push rod cover? Does it have these the oil distributor cover on the lower side on the driver's side? These features can often distinguish between 216 and full pressure 235 or 261 enginrs.
My personal experience shows that neither block casting numbers or serial numbers are positive identification. I own or have owned five 261s over the years and only one of them has or had a serial number that is for a 261. One of the 261 block casting numbers is 3835911, which always shows up a 54-54 235 on most casting number lists. If the block was a new replacement from Chevrolet, the casting number may not be consistent with the original, and the serial number can be whatever the owner wanted to stamp on the virgin surface on the distributor pad.
Hoyt
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| | | | | Joined: Apr 2006 Posts: 506 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: Apr 2006 Posts: 506 | Casting 3835499 is not a block casting for the 216.
It is listed as a head casting for the 235 and the 261.
That head casting number was used twice and has 2 different part numbers.
For the 261, the part number is 3703569 and also the 1950-52 235, part number is 3835545.
-Tom
1950 Chevy 3100 w/ 1956 235
| | | | | Joined: Sep 2001 Posts: 29,269 Bubba - Curmudgeon | | Bubba - Curmudgeon Joined: Sep 2001 Posts: 29,269 | Tom, Thanks for the correction, The reference to that code being for a 216 came from Hemmings (I even got the head-block wrong). Here's another person correcting this on the H.A.M.B Tim | | |
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