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Jul 21st, 2025 | | | | Joined: Jun 2002 Posts: 50 Member | | Member Joined: Jun 2002 Posts: 50 | I'm back to work on my truck now after a few weeks away from it. I have it mostly back together and fired it up after a few months of not running. My starter is not disengaging though. Its a 61 235 in my 52 baby, it has always ran good. Any ideas on how to correct this without replacing it? I haven't pulled it out yet to take a look but thought I would get some good advice from all the expericend people here first. It does disengage if I let off the starte pedal before it starts but when it starts it grinds to beat the band. Any help would be great. As always thanks in advance.
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#5233 09/11/2002 11:58 AM | Joined: Mar 2002 Posts: 9,112 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Mar 2002 Posts: 9,112 | Just so we can understand this, are you saying that you have the old foot actuated started on a newer 235 ? | | | | | Joined: May 2001 Posts: 477 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: May 2001 Posts: 477 | i've had this happen before. sometimes stuff sits and binds up---darned old rust gets everywhere. usually a little cleaning and brushing and a good coat of lubriplate fixes the problem. i like that stuff, and use it a bunch--even to break in a new cam. there can be mechanical problems---like the return spring broken or the spring has lost it's springy (that's a technical term to a hillbilly) but usually return springs are pretty tough. yank it out, clean it up, and go again. then go outside and fix the starter. ooops---sorry peg. (another scolding e-mail for koolkar from the little general.   | | | | | Joined: Jun 2002 Posts: 50 Member | | Member Joined: Jun 2002 Posts: 50 | Gotcha koolcar. I'll give that a try, then I'll try your suggestion on the starter also.
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| | | | | Joined: May 2001 Posts: 477 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: May 2001 Posts: 477 | remember the lubriplate. | | | | | Joined: Feb 2001 Posts: 1,897 Member | | Member Joined: Feb 2001 Posts: 1,897 | Look at the bendix,,,GEAR for cracks,,,,,IN THE GEAR!!! and check the ring,,,,,GEAR for false teeth,,,, I mean worn teeth!!!
Make sure all starter bolts are tight and there are no cracks in the housing(nose-cone of the starter).
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#5238 09/11/2002 10:21 PM | Joined: Jun 2002 Posts: 50 Member | | Member Joined: Jun 2002 Posts: 50 | I'll look at her teeth and check her for cracks like you suggest. Going to get me kicked out of the forum. Appreciate the suggestions, where can I get lubriplate? Will KY work if I can't find it? Thanks for all the help, I hope to get her running tonight.
If it ain't broke I ain't worked on it.
| | | | | Joined: Jun 2002 Posts: 50 Member | | Member Joined: Jun 2002 Posts: 50 | I checked the starter out it looks everything looks good except one thing. The linkage from the foot starter is hitting the firewall and not letting the the starter gear disengage from the flywheel. The spring is good and strong, it looks new. If I take the linkage off it lacks about a quarter inch of movement to disengage. Not sure what to do, maybe cut a little out of the linkage and weld it back. What do you think? Every seen this before?
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| | | | | Joined: Feb 2001 Posts: 1,897 Member | | Member Joined: Feb 2001 Posts: 1,897 | How are the cab body mounts? It sounds like the cab may have shifted forward.I wouldn`t think that someone could have changed any of the linkage but it may be possible 
There is enough good in the worst of us and enough bad in the best of us that it does not behoove any of us to criticize the rest of us.
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| | | | | Joined: Jun 2002 Posts: 50 Member | | Member Joined: Jun 2002 Posts: 50 | I guess it could be the cab mounts, I didn't think of that. I didn't have the cab off but I did have the front clip off, the cab mounts I'm sure aren't in that great of shape and it could have shifted with all the time it spend on jack stands and the floor jack, it went up and down a few times in the last month thats for sure. Good idea, I'll check that out tonight if the wife will let me. She asked me last night if she smeared some grease on her face if I'd notice her, who am I to disappoint her, I said sure I would.
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| | | | | Joined: Jun 2000 Posts: 2,773 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Jun 2000 Posts: 2,773 | Just don't get your lubricants mixed up. No KY on the truck. Lubriplate is white lithium that has a special adhesion additive. You can also use the white lithium in a spray can. There's another grease that is better for open gears, it is black and comes in a caulk tube. Far better for sticking to gears and stuff, but next to impossible to clean out of your clothes and skin.
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| | | | | Joined: Mar 2002 Posts: 9,112 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Mar 2002 Posts: 9,112 | This is a problem on my project truck because the cab is collapsed. There should be a specified clearance between the toeboard and the frame, I think it is probably close to an inch, but it is in the shop manual. What you will find is that if you change the length of the linkage, you will then have a problem with the switch. | | | | | Joined: Jun 2002 Posts: 50 Member | | Member Joined: Jun 2002 Posts: 50 | Mechainiac
How the heck you new the cab mounts were the problem I'llnever know. How many of these old trucks have you worked on? That was it, I shimed it up and it works great. I guess when I'm done with this one the next one will be much eaiser.
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| | | | | Joined: Feb 2001 Posts: 1,897 Member | | Member Joined: Feb 2001 Posts: 1,897 | I have informants looking at your truck while you are sleeping  Really just a view of experience and a process of elimination
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