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#51546 10/27/2005 12:18 AM
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Just purchased a water pump for my 39 216 engine and noticed that the parts listing showes the 39 water pump different from the 41 and up 216 engines. There seem to be a number of differences (oil pump, spark plugs) What is the difference in water pumps? Do parts from these two vintage engines interchange? Are the differences significant?

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In my experience, I believe I only ran across a couple of significant differences between a 39 and a 46 216. I wasn't aware that a water pump was one of them.

I spent last winter putting a 1939 216 in my 46 truck.

If memory serves me correctly... Different crank, flywheel, and flywheel mounting flange, (4 bolts vs. 6 bolts with keepers, if I remember correctly). I believe there are some differences in the rear seals. There is also a different oil distributor location.

Ran into problems with that last one, when I had my manifold split according to measurements I took off of the 46, rather than the 39 block.

I'm going to have to look at the water pump I pulled off of the 46, when I get home this evening. I had saved it, so I'd have a spare if I ever needed it.

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1937-40 216 pumps only have one water hole where the water flows into the block, 1941-54 have two. The bolt pattern is also different.

1940 was the first year to use a rear main seal and a six bolt flywheel.
1940-41 flywheels are the same but use 3/8" mounting bolts and have a larger center hole than 1941-62.


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#51549 10/27/2005 2:15 AM
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There are quite a few differences between 37-40 and 41 on up. Chevrolet did a redesign of the 216 and except for the cubic inch displacement, most of the internals were changed and reworked to the point that even the oil pan has a different configuration, along with the bottom of the block. A gasket set for 37-40 will not fit a 41 on block.

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#51550 10/27/2005 2:36 PM
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Thanks for all of the comments. They help clear up the mystery. This is the kind of information that only comes from experienced stovebolters.

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Somewhere in there, I believe 1939, they added the oil sprayers for the dippers.


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#51552 10/28/2005 1:39 AM
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Don't know if this is any help or not, but on my webshots pages, under the 224 to 235 engine swap album, photo 7_22_3 is a photo of the front of my original 1940 motor with the water pump. This is a 224 motor, the Canadian cousin of the 216. The only difference is it uses aluminum pistons instead of cast iron and they are a tad larger in diameter.

http://community.webshots.com/user/ndnchf

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#51553 10/28/2005 5:51 PM
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Thanks for posting the fine pics, what year is the 235? I have a 56 on the stand that i'm going to rebuild and install in my 46 2ton. This is new ground for me.


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