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#51199 10/17/2005 7:31 PM | Joined: Jun 2005 Posts: 153 Member | | Member Joined: Jun 2005 Posts: 153 | i got the bell housing off but i don't know how much movement is okay. how can i tell if the joint is bad without removing it? thanks
Overland Blue, 1953 GMC 1/2T, 100-22, 228/1bbl, 4sp/4.10 6v, shortbed/fender side/5-window.
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#51200 10/17/2005 7:37 PM | Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 1,682 Extreme Gabster | | Extreme Gabster Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 1,682 | If your u-joint is bad, you'll hear some sort of knocking, banging, grinding, clicking kind of sound when you drive, especially while accelerating.
As a general rule they should wiggle a little bit on both their X and Y axis, but not by a whole lot.. millimeters, not inches.
an idea is only stupid if you think about it rationally.
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#51201 10/18/2005 4:02 AM | Joined: Jun 2005 Posts: 153 Member | | Member Joined: Jun 2005 Posts: 153 | fumblin46/anyone, i got the u-joint in my hand and it doesn't have any balls in it like i expected, it just uses bronze bushing. and it's got about 1/16" slop/cap travel back and forth (not side to side or twisting motion) between the caps in the axle side of the yoke (not the brass flanged sides). it doesn't work as smooth as ball bearing models and i'm surprised this design works at all, but can someone tell me how to know if this thing is bad and could be causing my 40mph vibration? the tt bushing has a little play but i don't think it's much over .010. help. i don't wanna spend 120 bucks if this isn't the problem. thanks in advance. thanks.
Overland Blue, 1953 GMC 1/2T, 100-22, 228/1bbl, 4sp/4.10 6v, shortbed/fender side/5-window.
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#51202 10/22/2005 3:26 AM | Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 2,953 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 2,953 | Check the inside of the ball housing for scoring or dings in the metal. A u-joint that flops around will hit it as it turns. For the most part these marks can be smoothed with some emery cloth and elbow grease. If the bushing in the torque tube is worn this might cause vibration. A worn bushing could also lead to seal failure letting all of your trans fluid leak to the differential. This happened to my 49 and I put the Okie system in. Not really a very hard job. The most difficult part was removing the old bushing using my primitive methods. | | |
#51203 10/22/2005 6:44 PM | Joined: Jun 2005 Posts: 153 Member | | Member Joined: Jun 2005 Posts: 153 | oldblu49, my okie seems fine, about .010 play and the diff isn't overflowing. my bell housing is really scared inside, figured either an earlier joint let go or it was just forged that way. i can try to get some of the scoring out, but i wasn't sure if that made any difference as long as i get the replacement joint put in. wish i could use a needle bearing joing from the late 50's but my yokes aren't correct for this and i don't know if later yokes would work so i'm stuck with this bronze bushing setup i guess. thanks for yours and everyones help. i'll check back in when i get the joint put in to let you know if that fixed my vibration problems. tony
Overland Blue, 1953 GMC 1/2T, 100-22, 228/1bbl, 4sp/4.10 6v, shortbed/fender side/5-window.
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#51204 10/25/2005 3:03 AM | Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 2,953 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 2,953 | There is nothing wrong with the bronze bushing set up in the u-joint. I don't think any later yokes will fit because of the enclosed u-joint in the ball housing. | | |
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