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#50330 09/19/2005 10:02 PM | Joined: Sep 2005 Posts: 15 Junior Member | | Junior Member Joined: Sep 2005 Posts: 15 | Is there any way to shorten up the throw on the three on the tree? Thanks
Cbaymac
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#50331 09/19/2005 10:28 PM | Joined: Aug 2005 Posts: 157 Wrench Fetcher | | Wrench Fetcher Joined: Aug 2005 Posts: 157 | Well, I suppose that you could try drilling new holes for the shift rods on the "H" box arms just inboard of the present holes, but, I have a feeling that it would increase the effort involved in shifting.
I think that GM figured out the leverage needed for easy shifting and the levers on the "H" box and the transmission are the necessary length. | | |
#50332 09/19/2005 11:31 PM | Joined: Jun 2004 Posts: 8,597 Riding in the Passing Lane | | Riding in the Passing Lane Joined: Jun 2004 Posts: 8,597 | Seems like that would increase the throw. If you made the arms longer or moved the rods in on the trans. it would shorten it but like you say I think they are about right if you get everything in good shape. They say money can't buy happiness. It can buy old Chevy trucks though. Same thing. 1972 Chevy c10 Cheyenne SuperIn the Gallery Forum | | |
#50333 09/20/2005 12:40 AM | Joined: Aug 2005 Posts: 157 Wrench Fetcher | | Wrench Fetcher Joined: Aug 2005 Posts: 157 | Originally posted by Wrenchbender Ret.: Seems like that would increase the throw. If you made the arms longer or moved the rods in on the trans. it would shorten it but like you say I think they are about right if you get everything in good shape. Yep, you're right. We did this once on another, um, brand about 30 years ago and it was the levers on the transmission we modified. | | |
#50334 09/20/2005 1:49 AM | Joined: Sep 2005 Posts: 15 Junior Member | | Junior Member Joined: Sep 2005 Posts: 15 | It seems you could shorten the arms on the transmission and the steering wheel shaft slightly. When the truck in in third, my knee is interfering with the shifter when I go for the brakes. Right now, I shift to neutral, then brake. Not too cool under a fast stop...guess I could shorten up my right leg? :o ) r, gm
Cbaymac
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#50335 09/20/2005 9:07 PM | Joined: Jul 2003 Posts: 132 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Jul 2003 Posts: 132 | Well, your last post changed the answer. You don't really want to shorten the throw, you want to move the position of the lever up.
I think you can adjust the shift rod length, both arms an equal amount, and move the neutral position of the H-box up. That should put every gear postion higher. You may or may not like the result.
If not, then you can modify the transmission levers to shorten the throw also. Try drilling another hole as close to the existing one as possible and moving the rod to the new hole. Nothing to lose as you can always move it back if it isn't to your liking.
The old time floor shift conversions almost always included shorter trans arms to make them 'short throw'. | | |
#50336 09/21/2005 5:00 PM | Joined: Sep 2005 Posts: 15 Junior Member | | Junior Member Joined: Sep 2005 Posts: 15 | KENC, Thaks, I'll take a look at the shifter arms. The truck also has power brakes so the pedal could be shortned as well. r
Cbaymac
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#50337 09/21/2005 8:20 PM | Joined: Jul 2004 Posts: 5,708 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Jul 2004 Posts: 5,708 | Cbaymac, If an effort to save you a amputation, you could always do this: Flip the 2nd/3rd arm on the transmission side cover upside down and bend the linkage to fit. Your three on the tree would still be there, but 3rd gear would be up, out of the way of your leg. Second gear would be where 3rd gear used to be. This is said half in jest..years ago we would "reverse the linkage" on our cars to be cool! This trick might fool a would be car thief too!
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#50338 09/21/2005 9:56 PM | Joined: Jan 2004 Posts: 255 Member | | Member Joined: Jan 2004 Posts: 255 | Cbaymac, Can you just bend the shift lever up a little until it clears your leg, but not so far that it interferes with something else? Justa thought. Ralph | | |
#50339 09/22/2005 12:24 AM | Joined: Oct 2002 Posts: 4,066 Bolter | | Bolter Joined: Oct 2002 Posts: 4,066 | I would get an auto-matic  Redryder pixMy HotrodA veteran - whether active duty, retired, national guard, or reserve - is someone who, at one point in his or her life, wrote a blank check made payable to The 'United States of America', for an amount of "up to and including my life."I am fighting cancer and I am winning the fight | Pain is part of life; misery is an option. | | |
#50340 09/22/2005 7:33 PM | Joined: Nov 2002 Posts: 394 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Nov 2002 Posts: 394 | I had the same problem with my 3 speed and I'd discovered all the holes in the linkage I was using were elongated big time. So I tore all the linkage out of my truck and welded I believe they were 5/16" washers on each side of the levers and what a difference that was, shorter throws and a lot more solid.  | | |
#50341 09/26/2005 3:58 PM | Joined: Sep 2005 Posts: 15 Junior Member | | Junior Member Joined: Sep 2005 Posts: 15 | Ol'55. Thanks. I'll take a look. There is a lot of slop. I may move the holes closer to the shaft a little as well. http://mcpheter.com/Winner.jpg
Cbaymac
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#50342 09/26/2005 5:17 PM | Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 297 Wrench Fetcher | | Wrench Fetcher Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 297 | on my 54 there is a place on the shaft that goes through the floor board that you can adjust that will firm it up and "tighten" things up so your knees won't hit the gearshift.
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#50343 09/26/2005 5:18 PM | Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 297 Wrench Fetcher | | Wrench Fetcher Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 297 | on my 54 there is a place on the shaft that goes through the floor board that you can adjust that will firm it up and "tighten" things up so your knees won't hit the gearshift.
54 3100 w/62 235 "Yosemite Sam" Born a Jay Hawk, raised an Okie and resurrected in Texas!http://community.webshots.com/user/djed50
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#50344 09/27/2005 11:13 AM | Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 926 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 926 | On my '49 I shortened the shift lever by about half it's length,and greased and shimmed up all my linkage.I turned and finished a shift knob from a piece of 1-14" oak dowel.Problem solved,and it shifted so easy even my girlfriend could shift it. Speed | | |
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