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| | | | Joined: Jan 2009 Posts: 1,644 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: Jan 2009 Posts: 1,644 | Hi, I am going to start restoring My 1952 3100 this spring and I want to keep the gas tank out of the cab anybody got any good ideas , mabe somone has done it before . Pete | | | | | Joined: Dec 2004 Posts: 425 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Dec 2004 Posts: 425 | Pete, I have not done it, but it is common. Do a search on here. Also, Check with the vendors to see what kinds of kits they have. | | | | | Joined: Jan 2009 Posts: 1,644 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: Jan 2009 Posts: 1,644 | I did a search but everything and the kitchen sink comes up I did find some kits but they are very expensive, I was hopping somone did one using a tank from a car or truck , Thanks Pete | | | | | Joined: Mar 2005 Posts: 684 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: Mar 2005 Posts: 684 | Search Geneeral truck talk, and search for underbed. Lots of information there. | | | | | Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 493 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 493 | I was looking at using a 56 Bel air tank. Has anyone put one of these in? The sending unit is 30 ohms and the tank and sending unit are available after market. The filler is on the left hand side at the rear of the tank. Dimensions are 25" 1/4" x 25" x 8" 1/4" Rounded Corners which looks like it would tuck under the spare tire carrier. The tanks are about $150 and the sending unit about $50 new. The hanging straps are also available and could probably be made to work. The main thing is it has a sending unit that will work with my gauge.
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| | | | | Joined: Jul 2004 Posts: 427 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: Jul 2004 Posts: 427 | I used a 67-72 mustang tank. Built a frame for it and has worked perfect for 11,000 miles. | | | | | Joined: Jan 2009 Posts: 1,644 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: Jan 2009 Posts: 1,644 | Thanks for all the info , I now have alot of good options I can not wait to start on the truck it just has to warm up a little. thanks for all the pics Carolines. Pete | | | | | Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 445 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 445 | on the gas tank a 65 ford mustang works perfect
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| | | | | Joined: Feb 2006 Posts: 1,867 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: Feb 2006 Posts: 1,867 | Whats the reason behind moving the tank? | | | | | Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 445 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 445 | SAFETY.Nothing like setting on a claymore an becomming a piece of toast
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| | | | | Joined: Feb 2006 Posts: 1,867 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: Feb 2006 Posts: 1,867 | Safety isnt a good excuse. You have a much higher risk of an accident by putting it under the bed then you would with having it behind the seat.
Between the frame rails under the bed, you have a larger chance to damage it if in an accident, whether being a side impact or rear impact, due to the height and placement of another car or trucks front end. Behind the seat its lifted above where everything but a large vehicle, height wise, could effect it. The exception being a roll over accident in which case you probably will not fair well regardless.
Its hard to argue with the fact that they put them under or behind the seat up until the 1970s. I cannot recall any accidents where having the tank behind the seat was detrimental to the driver.
Just my opinion.
Jeff | | | | | Joined: Jul 2008 Posts: 1,262 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: Jul 2008 Posts: 1,262 | Opinions vary but it seems like a good old dose of common horse sense needs to be applied here? The best place for the fuel tank is between the frame rails where there is structural steel around the tank to protect it, not a sheet metal body. I am floored every time someone says that a gas tanks in the cab is safer than an external tanks? (You are riding in an enclosed area with 20 gallons of fuel right behind you.) Check out the first post on this link. http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=322241As bad, or maybe worse, than the in cab tank is an external frame mounted saddle tank. Check out this link http://www.theautochannel.com/news/2001/04/20/018916.html But don't rely on the car companies to keep you safe. It wasn't until the 60's when whistleblowers and lawyers first started to pressure car companies to make safer cars. Remember Ralph Nader and the Corvair? When it comes to safety and car companies I think Lee Iacoca answered this question best back in the mid 1970's. When he was in charge of Ford Motor Co. and his engineers told him that the Pinto's fuel tank would rupture in a rear end colision and fill the cabin of the car with gas and gas fumes he said "Safety doesn't sell cars". Check out this link http://www.autosafety.org/pinto-madness" Almost seven years after Miller's testimony, a woman, whom for legal reasons we will call Sandra Gillespie, pulled onto a Minneapolis highway in her new Ford Pinto. Riding with her was a young boy, whom we'll call Robbie Carlton. As she entered a merge lane, Sandra Gillespie's car stalled. Another car rear-ended hers at an impact speed of 28 miles per hour. The Pinto's gas tank ruptured. Vapors from it mixed quickly with the air in the passenger compartment. A spark ignited the mixture and the car exploded in a ball of fire. Sandra died in agony a few hours later in an emergency hospital. Her passenger, 13-year-old Robbie Carlton, is still alive; he has just come home from another futile operation aimed at grafting a new ear and nose from skin on the few unscarred portions of his badly burned body. (This accident is real; the details are from police reports.)" I guess to sum this up each person needs to do what they think is best when it comes to safety in their vehicle. For me, the tank is out of the cab in my '65 C10 and moved to the back https://www.stovebolt.com/ubbthreads/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=492803#Post492803 and seat belts are going in next.
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| | | | | Joined: Oct 2002 Posts: 4,066 Bolter | | Bolter Joined: Oct 2002 Posts: 4,066 | if you get hit h ard enough probably wont matter anyway..
I drove my 52 better then 9yrs and no problem, I have owned a 70 International with a seat tank with no problems..
like Joe stated, up to the owner... some do and so dont..
I never gave it that much thought...
Redryder pixMy HotrodA veteran - whether active duty, retired, national guard, or reserve - is someone who, at one point in his or her life, wrote a blank check made payable to The 'United States of America', for an amount of "up to and including my life."I am fighting cancer and I am winning the fight | Pain is part of life; misery is an option. | | | | | Joined: Feb 2006 Posts: 1,867 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: Feb 2006 Posts: 1,867 | Do a good search of the site and youll end up with about 30 pages of pro and cons for moving or leaving the tank where it is.
Almost all are valid, thats why theyre called opinions.
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rear tank for me. Most, not all rear tanks eliminate the valuable space where a spare tire should go unless you have one on the drivers side fender. Most , not ALL have the filler located in the bed wood area, so if you have it covered w/ 'stuff', you would then have to move it to get access to the door or cap to fill-up. If placing a rear tank i believe it best to have a side rear fender door or spout @ the fender area coming out at the rear fender skirt. either side is your choice. you would have to cut the rear frame section and weld in a curved piece to strengthen up the cut so the 2'' filler tube would fit. if you placed it where i have mine located there is space between the bed wood bottom and the frame.
